Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Tom Hoffman
On 2/21/06, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 February 2006 05:13, Andrew Milton wrote:
> > Why should Mark Shuttleworth who has plenty of means, hand over IP for
> > (parts of) SchoolTool? I'm sure he has more than enough ways to protect his
> > IP. Or are you saying that it makes sense for ZF/ZC to protect him?
>
> The reason the SchoolTool project would be interested in putting a couple
> packages in the common repository would be so they are moved into the Zope 3
> core pr are part of the distribution. It would mean that the SchoolTool
> developers have to maintain less code.
>
> However, we do not need to put all of SchoolTool into the repository just to
> get certified. We can ask for certification with the SchoolTool code living
> in another repository. In fact, I think SchoolTool might be one of the first
> outside projects to gain certifications, since it is the only large project
> that I know of that fulfills the level 2 requirements (I think it could even
> get level 3).



Lest there be any confusion, I'll point out that while Stephan has
been working as a paid developer on SchoolTool, and I'm happy that he
lobbies for issues that he perceives to be in the project's interest,
like this one, he isn't doing so as a formal representative of
SchoolTool as such.

Stephan and I, let alone Mark, haven't discussed this proposal (yet),
and I don't yet know what SchoolTool's position will be.



Tom Hoffman
SchoolTool Project Manager
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 08:50, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> OK, so it is now clear from Stephans comments that thsi really is two
> separate proposals, just mixed into one file because of Stephans
> workload. I think we should properly split them up, because this
> clearly made a lot of people confused, and I wonder if anybody that
> read this proposal realized that this was two independent things. I
> sure didn't.

I think it was a lack of communication, If section 3.1 (as it does now in my 
local copy) clearly states that packages are not required to live in the 
Common Repository, it is fine.

> So, the idea is to have a website for listing Zope3 products with it's
> certification. And another idea is to have a common repository, with
> rules for that. One question is then what requirements to have on
> repositories that join into the certification process. Same as on the
> ZF repository? None at all? Something in the middle?

I have not figured this out yet. :-) I think we need one implementation first, 
to see how it will work. For example, the CERTIFICATION.xml file should 
always live in the common repository or a even more secured place to ensure 
validity of the process. I think we will quickly figure out ways to do that, 
once we have done it once.

I think a lot of code can be reused. I have started a package that aims at 
providing an implementation of the process independently from the 
svn.zope.org layout. 

Regards,
Stephan
-- 
Stephan Richter
CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student)
Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
OK, so it is now clear from Stephans comments that thsi really is two
separate proposals, just mixed into one file because of Stephans
workload. I think we should properly split them up, because this
clearly made a lot of people confused, and I wonder if anybody that
read this proposal realized that this was two independent things. I
sure didn't.

So, the idea is to have a website for listing Zope3 products with it's
certification. And another idea is to have a common repository, with
rules for that. One question is then what requirements to have on
repositories that join into the certification process. Same as on the
ZF repository? None at all? Something in the middle?
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