Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope3-dev] Retaining ease of customisation

2005-11-25 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Martin Aspeli wrote: I think there are two cases: The first is the tinkerer, who wants to customise primarily the template as easily as possible, preferably TTW. OK, I buy this. You want to be able to modify resources, try different options ... Then you might want to export them the

Re: [Zope3-dev] Retaining ease of customisation

2005-11-24 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 23 November 2005 16:41, Martin Aspeli wrote: I think there needs to be a solution for making quick, preferably TTW customisation of UI templates. As Tres pointed out, this shouldn't add a performance overhead and lead to maintenance woes for those who

Re: [Zope3-dev] Retaining ease of customisation

2005-11-24 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 23 November 2005 16:41, Martin Aspeli wrote: I think there needs to be a solution for making quick, preferably TTW customisation of UI templates. [snip] You should have a look at CPSSkins for Zope 3 (developed by the Z3ECM

Re: [Zope3-dev] Retaining ease of customisation

2005-11-24 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Martijn Faassen wrote: my impression is that if you want TTW editing you'll have to do it on an application level using what's available in the framework (utilities, ZPT, ...) Zope3 allows you to do this already and in a much cleaner way than with zope2.. That's great! How to make this

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope3-dev] Retaining ease of customisation

2005-11-24 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
erik wrote: Hi, HI! I'm just a tiny little bit confused here, what is a view and what is a resource - in Zope2 and in Zope3 ? ;-) there's a notion of resource already in Zope3 that encompasses: images, files and templates in cpsskins (zope3) the notion also encompasses more

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope3-dev] Retaining ease of customisation

2005-11-24 Thread Martin Aspeli
I'm just a tiny little bit confused here, what is a view and what is a resource - in Zope2 and in Zope3 ? Maybe I just don't know enough about Zope3 (or 2), but to me what JM calls a view is a resource, and vice versa... anyway, I think it's a good idea to have the conceptual discussion now

Re: [Zope3-dev] Retaining ease of customisation

2005-11-23 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 23 November 2005 16:41, Martin Aspeli wrote: I think there needs to be a solution for making quick, preferably TTW   customisation of UI templates. As Tres pointed out, this shouldn't add a   performance overhead and lead to maintenance woes for those who know what   they're