Re: [Zope] Did I miss some major change in Z SQL Methods ?

2001-01-28 Thread Curtis Maloney

On Monday 29 January 2001 10:19, Fred Yankowski wrote:
> I missed the original message, but I'm trying to do something similar
> -- use Python Methods rather than DTML -- and I found one critical
> difference just today.  Here's an example:
>
> I've got an SQL Method called 'select_item' that takes 'item_id' as
> its only input parameter.
>
> I've got a DTML Method 'form_action' that has 'item_id' in its
> namespace by virtue of being posted from an HTTP form.
>
> When I would invoke the SQL method from DTML I could do just
> 
> and the SQL method would get the item_id from the DTML method.
>
> But when using a new 'action_script' Python Method (PythonMethod
> 0.1.7) I have to pass that item_id explicitly from the DTML
>
> and action_script itself has to call the SQL method like so
>self.select_item(item_id=item_id)
>
> I don't know why the explicit parameter passing is needed in the
> latter case (DTML to Python Method to SQL Method) but not in the
> former (DTML to SQL Method).  I'm sure I'm missing some trick.
>
> In fact, this aspect of Zope -- when values are passed explicitly and
> when not -- is a major confusion for me.  (And anyone who responds
> about "Zen" deserves to have the size 12 boot applied.)
>

The way it appears to work is this:
DTML will pass it's namespace on implicitly.
Python will not.

The exact details of what are passed are somewhat of a mystery, true.  
Rember, of course that   is a Python expression.  
As I understand it, the equivalent of:



as a Python expression is:



When it comes to Python scripts, yes, you must pass all parameters 
explicitly.  IMHO, this is a good thing in many cases, as it forces you to 
make sure you are passing the correct values.  But I can see how implied 
values could make life easier... oh well...

Have a better one,
Curtis Maloney

P.S.  I'm now moving my application to Zope 2.3 in the vague hope that 
PythonScripts will handle this problem better.

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Re: [Zope] Did I miss some major change in Z SQL Methods ?

2001-01-28 Thread Fred Yankowski

I missed the original message, but I'm trying to do something similar
-- use Python Methods rather than DTML -- and I found one critical
difference just today.  Here's an example:

I've got an SQL Method called 'select_item' that takes 'item_id' as
its only input parameter.

I've got a DTML Method 'form_action' that has 'item_id' in its
namespace by virtue of being posted from an HTTP form.

When I would invoke the SQL method from DTML I could do just

and the SQL method would get the item_id from the DTML method.

But when using a new 'action_script' Python Method (PythonMethod
0.1.7) I have to pass that item_id explicitly from the DTML
   
and action_script itself has to call the SQL method like so
   self.select_item(item_id=item_id)

I don't know why the explicit parameter passing is needed in the
latter case (DTML to Python Method to SQL Method) but not in the
former (DTML to SQL Method).  I'm sure I'm missing some trick.

In fact, this aspect of Zope -- when values are passed explicitly and
when not -- is a major confusion for me.  (And anyone who responds
about "Zen" deserves to have the size 12 boot applied.)


On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:28:17AM +1100, Curtis Maloney wrote:
> The SQL Method works fine.  I can easily test that with the 'Test' tab.  
> Really, the only difference now to how I would have previously done this is 
> that I have the python method slicing the result for me.
> 
> That being said, I have tried removing that, and going to the Z SQL method 
> directly, and it STILL doesn't work.

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Re: [Zope] Did I miss some major change in Z SQL Methods ?

2001-01-28 Thread Curtis Maloney

On Thursday 25 January 2001 21:29, peter bengtson wrote:
> Curtis,
> Doing Z SQL Methods (SELECT) is really easy with DTML.
> When you've got a working example of it in DTML, then we can perhaps help
> you to convert that into Python Method code.
>
> Cheers, Peter


Peter,

Please, do not mistake me for a newbie.  I have been developing ZOPE 
applications for around a year now.  This time, however, I have decided to 
try to use Python, instead of doing the entire app in DTML.  People say this 
is a 'Bad Thing(tm)'.

The SQL Method works fine.  I can easily test that with the 'Test' tab.  
Really, the only difference now to how I would have previously done this is 
that I have the python method slicing the result for me.

That being said, I have tried removing that, and going to the Z SQL method 
directly, and it STILL doesn't work.

I fear that something is getting lost in the Acquisition...


Have a better one,
Curtis Maloney.

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Re: [Zope] Did I miss some major change in Z SQL Methods ?

2001-01-25 Thread peter bengtson

Curtis,
Doing Z SQL Methods (SELECT) is really easy with DTML.
When you've got a working example of it in DTML, then we can perhaps help
you to convert that into Python Method code.

Cheers, Peter


> On Thursday 25 January 2001 16:50, Evan Simpson wrote:
> > From: "Curtis Maloney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > A Z SQL Method ( Returner.sql.getDetails )
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> >
> > You want either:
> >
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >
>
> No...if you'd paid attention, the Returner.getDetails() is a python method
> that calls Returner.sql.getDetails() and does the [0] slicing.
>
> Besides, I've also tried ditching the Python Method, and doing the slicing
in
> my DTML, and it STILL doesn't work.  This is what has me so confused.
Even
> removing most of the complexity, the problem persists.
>
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Evan @ digicool & 4-am
>
> Have a better one,
> Curtis Maloney
>
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Re: [Zope] Did I miss some major change in Z SQL Methods ?

2001-01-25 Thread Hannu Krosing

Curtis Maloney wrote:
> 
> Green things,
> 
> I have a few methods poking about that just don't seem to make sense
> 
> A Z SQL Method ( Returner.sql.getDetails ) which simply contains:
> 
> SELECT * FROM Returner WHERE ReturnerID=
> 
> Which returns everything as expected.  The I have a Python Method which
> refers to it, simply wrapping it up, and taking the first (of what should be
> only one anyway) element.  It contains the following:
> ( Returner.getDetails(self, User) )
> 
> return self.sql.getDetails(User=User)[0]
> 
> Now.. for some reason, the following throws complaints about not being able
> to find ANY of the fields in the row:
> 
> 
>   
> 

what does :

 
   
 

return ?


Hannu

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Re: [Zope] Did I miss some major change in Z SQL Methods ?

2001-01-24 Thread Curtis Maloney

On Thursday 25 January 2001 16:50, Evan Simpson wrote:
> From: "Curtis Maloney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > A Z SQL Method ( Returner.sql.getDetails )
>
> [snip]
>
> > 
> >   
> > 
>
> You want either:
>
> 
>   
> 
>

No...if you'd paid attention, the Returner.getDetails() is a python method 
that calls Returner.sql.getDetails() and does the [0] slicing.

Besides, I've also tried ditching the Python Method, and doing the slicing in 
my DTML, and it STILL doesn't work.  This is what has me so confused.  Even 
removing most of the complexity, the problem persists.

> Cheers,
>
> Evan @ digicool & 4-am

Have a better one,
Curtis Maloney

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Re: [Zope] Did I miss some major change in Z SQL Methods ?

2001-01-24 Thread Evan Simpson

From: "Curtis Maloney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> A Z SQL Method ( Returner.sql.getDetails )
[snip]
> 
>   
> 

You want either:


  


...or...



  


Cheers,

Evan @ digicool & 4-am


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[Zope] Did I miss some major change in Z SQL Methods ?

2001-01-24 Thread Curtis Maloney


Green things,

I have a few methods poking about that just don't seem to make sense

A Z SQL Method ( Returner.sql.getDetails ) which simply contains:

SELECT * FROM Returner WHERE ReturnerID=

Which returns everything as expected.  The I have a Python Method which 
refers to it, simply wrapping it up, and taking the first (of what should be 
only one anyway) element.  It contains the following:
( Returner.getDetails(self, User) )

return self.sql.getDetails(User=User)[0]

Now.. for some reason, the following throws complaints about not being able 
to find ANY of the fields in the row:


  


Now, previously I've accessed my ZSQL Methods directly from DTML, but this 
time I was trying to abstract slightly, for various reasons...  But this 
bizarre behaviour has begun.  Can anyone explain what I'm missing?

Zope 2.2.5
ZMySQLDA 1.2.0
PythonMethods 0.1.7
Linux (RH 6.1 +)

Have a better one,
Curtis Maloney

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