Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
Just as your said, you don't have a good overview of the system you are working with. So I would suggest to you to dig in. If you have read all the docs and followed it to the word, am sure you will be better than me by now. Your intention of using this mailing list for help is not wrong, but your way of seeking help can be unappreciated by those who are in this maililng list. At any case, try uninstalling everything, and start from scratch again. If you have done this already, I suggest you look through the basic commands of your distro and try to dig through the issue. It may not be Zope's error in the first place, it could be your human error, configuration of your server, or whatever. A piece of advice. Install zope in your PC first before the server. I hope you have the same distro too, that helps alot, I mean ALOT!! Regards, Kwang On 7/7/06, russtik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read all the documentation I could find and followed it to the word. I believe other factors came into play which resulted in a non-working installation. Not having a more holistic overview of system means that I easily get lost when something unexpected happens. This is why I'm consulting the mailing list for assistance. -Original Message- From: KE Liew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 July 2006 23:46 To: russ Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes no offense, but you should really listen to those advice given. it'll take you lesser time to get a working web application than to do it on the job as you said. i hope you do realise that on-the-job could also mean researching and studying the work at hand before actually being more productive. you didn't read the docs properly to get zope running, IMHO. if you wanna get zope+cmf running well and to what you want, start reading and learn. On 7/6/06, russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: o.k. when running that I saw this: unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 546729 15600/python /home/zope/instance/var/zopectlsock.15599 Does this mean it's running? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 July 2006 15:44 To: russ Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes if your zope instance does not show in the output from: netstat -ap | grep LISTEN (issued as root) then there's no sense in trying to figure out how to telnet to localhost 8080 (or whatever port your zope is running on) as there's nothing listening for the inbound connection. i.e., until your zope instance is running correctly so shows up in the netstat output, trying to connect inbound to it will fail and prove nothing. [there are a variety of things that can cause an inbound connection to a service to fail. you need to take the debugging one step at a time, starting with confirming that there's actually a service running.] - Rick Original Message Date: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:28:46 AM +0100 From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes What does it mean if this is listed under ps -eLf: zope 15601 15600 15601 01 Jul05 ?00:00:05 /usr/bin/python /usr/ ...but isn't anywhere to be seen under netstat -p ? how do I telnet to port 8080 *on* the same machine? Sorry :S -Original Message- From: replies-lists-zope Sent: 05 July 2006 18:59 To: russ Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes use the ps command to see that that process is still running. also use the netstat command (with the -p flag (as root)) to see/confirm what port zope is listening on. if it's running, on port 8080, then try to telnet to port 8080, both as localhost 8080 and hostname 8080 (both from the server itself). if both of those work, then telnet to hostname 8080 from a remote machine (e.g., the desktop machine you've been using your browser from). if the telnets from the server work, but the telnet from the remote host doesn't, then your issue is likely to be a firewall. Original Message Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 06:24:40 PM +0100 From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jonathan' [EMAIL PROTECTED], zope@zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes Well I've tried to follow your steps with the exception of point 15 (mkzopeinstance.py doesn't reside in my python directory, it's in the zope/bin folder). At the last stage I hit enter and got: bash-3.00$ ./zopectl start . daemon process started, pid=15601 And now what? http://www.domain.tld:8080 still produces nothing. :( ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes
(Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 12:00:08PM -0400) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote/schrieb/egrapse: From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes Firstly I'll just mention a little bit more about the server. We have cPanel and Apache running. There's a number of accounts setup in cPanel and It appears that this is a production server. ... Jonathan wrote: If zope is not running try starting zope with the command: ./zopectl fg this should allow you to see any errors that are generated while zope tries to start up. good advice ... russ wrote: I can't see anything relating to zope specifically running the zopect1 command results in this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory ... later Jonathan replied: Don't give up! And now my point: Jonathan, I disagree here. Russ, you are running a command you don't know about (and you don't even care enough to check the spelling) as *root* on a *production* server. Please notify the servers administrator and/or owner about this. You shouldn't be allowed near a root prompt. At least till you've done your homework to the extend that you pay attention before doing anything as root. Besides, nobody told you to do this as root. When giving commands as root, you can destroy everything that is on that server. For starters try it with `rm -rf /`. Why don't you try the installation first on a test machine or personal workstation? We all have to learn stuff first, but a production server isn't a learning environment. Nowadays it is *very* easy to get a Unix clone system to play around with. There is also documentation to be found about Zope and System Administration in general, for free on the Internet. [Stepping down from Soap Box] Have a nice day + Regards, Sascha ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes
What does it mean if this is listed under ps -eLf: zope 15601 15600 15601 01 Jul05 ?00:00:05 /usr/bin/python /usr/ ...but isn't anywhere to be seen under netstat -p ? how do I telnet to port 8080 *on* the same machine? Sorry :S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 July 2006 18:59 To: russ Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes use the ps command to see that that process is still running. also use the netstat command (with the -p flag (as root)) to see/confirm what port zope is listening on. if it's running, on port 8080, then try to telnet to port 8080, both as localhost:8080 and hostname:8080 (both from the server itself). if both of those work, then telnet to hostname:8080 from a remote machine (e.g., the desktop machine you've been using yoru browser from). if the telnets from the server work, but the telnet from the remote host doesn't, then your issue is likely to be a firewall. Original Message Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 06:24:40 PM +0100 From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jonathan' [EMAIL PROTECTED], zope@zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes Well I've tried to follow your steps with the exception of point 15 (mkzopeinstance.py doesn't reside in my python directory, it's in the zope/bin folder). At the last stage I hit enter and got: bash-3.00$ ./zopectl start . daemon process started, pid=15601 And now what? http://www.domain.tld:8080 still produces nothing. :( -Original Message- From: Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 July 2006 17:14 To: russ; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes O.k. thanks, There are a number of lines like this: mailman 2485 2468 2485 01 Jun29 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /u ...and a few like this: root 12796 11967 12796 01 13:10 pts/100:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/ These are not zope entries, you are looking for something like: zope 3158 1 3158 01 07:52 ?00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -S /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/l zope 3159 3158 3159 05 07:52 ?00:00:02 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py -C /apps/zope/etc/zope I can't see anything relating to zope specifically running the zopect1 command results in this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory in your local zope/bin directory you should have some script files like: runzope, runzope.bat and zopectl (this is what I have with zope 2.9.2 installation) If you do not have these files, then something is truly pooched. Here are the steps I used to install zope 2.9.2 (linux os) 1) download zope 2.9.2 tarball into /usr/local/src (I used wget) 2) tar -xzf the zope tarball (unpack it) 3) change directory (cd) to the new zope subdirectory (created by the tar command) 4) make sure you have python 2.4.2 (this is for zope 2.9.2, check what you need for zope 2.9.3). My python 2.4.2 is installed in /usr/local/bin and this directory is contained with the PATH environment variable (type echo $PATH at the command prompt - if the directory containing your python 2.x is not in PATH you will need to modify PATH) 5) at the command line enter: ./configure 6) at the command line enter: make 7) at the command line enter: make install(This will install zope in /usr/local/zope-2.9.x) Now you need to add a 'zope' user to your system (if you do not already have one) 8) cd /etc 9) groupadd zope (unless you already have a zope group defined) 10) useradd -g zope zope (this creates a zope user) 11) passwd zope (sets a password for the new user) 12) usermod -d /apps/zope zope (sets the home directory for the new user to /apps/zope) Now you need to create a zope instance: 13) change directory to /usr/local/zope-2.9.x/bin 14) su zope (change to the zope user you created earlier) 15) at the command line enter: /usr/local/bin/python mkzopeinstance.py (note: replace /usr/local/bin/python with the location of your python 2.4.x installation) You will be prompted for a zope instance home (i use /apps/zope), a username and a password (your zope admin account) 16) change directory to the new zope instance home (eg. cd /apps/zope) and you should see several subdirectories. 17) check the ownership of the directories/files - they should all be owned by zope and belong to the zope group. To change them enter: chown zope * (changes ownership); chgrp zope * (changes group) Now you need to make a couple
RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes
I agree Sascha, I would prefer to much more grounded in the ways of the command line before attempting this stuff. I'm trying to get this running as I was hoping that it wouldn't be too involved and would be able to get busy creating Plone sites. I don't have the luxury of time to learn more about this in general beforehand and so made the decision to learn on the job as it were. You may see this as foolish, and it probably is, but I entered into this hoping that I wouldn't have to get my hands too dirty. I now find myself in uncharted territory, not wanting to turn back. So do you think I should throw in the towel now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sascha Welter Sent: 06 July 2006 10:14 To: zope@zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes (Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 12:00:08PM -0400) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote/schrieb/egrapse: From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes Firstly I'll just mention a little bit more about the server. We have cPanel and Apache running. There's a number of accounts setup in cPanel and It appears that this is a production server. ... Jonathan wrote: If zope is not running try starting zope with the command: ./zopectl fg this should allow you to see any errors that are generated while zope tries to start up. good advice ... russ wrote: I can't see anything relating to zope specifically running the zopect1 command results in this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory ... later Jonathan replied: Don't give up! And now my point: Jonathan, I disagree here. Russ, you are running a command you don't know about (and you don't even care enough to check the spelling) as *root* on a *production* server. Please notify the servers administrator and/or owner about this. You shouldn't be allowed near a root prompt. At least till you've done your homework to the extend that you pay attention before doing anything as root. Besides, nobody told you to do this as root. When giving commands as root, you can destroy everything that is on that server. For starters try it with `rm -rf /`. Why don't you try the installation first on a test machine or personal workstation? We all have to learn stuff first, but a production server isn't a learning environment. Nowadays it is *very* easy to get a Unix clone system to play around with. There is also documentation to be found about Zope and System Administration in general, for free on the Internet. [Stepping down from Soap Box] Have a nice day + Regards, Sascha ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
- Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Sascha Welter' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.org Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:38 AM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes I agree Sascha, I would prefer to much more grounded in the ways of the command line before attempting this stuff. I'm trying to get this running as I was hoping that it wouldn't be too involved and would be able to get busy creating Plone sites. I don't have the luxury of time to learn more about this in general beforehand and so made the decision to learn on the job as it were. You may see this as foolish, and it probably is, but I entered into this hoping that I wouldn't have to get my hands too dirty. I now find myself in uncharted territory, not wanting to turn back. So do you think I should throw in the towel now? If you only have one server available and if it is a production server, then you need to think about the ramifications of crashing that server. 'Production server' means different things to different organizations, and if no-one is going to be screaming at you if you kill the server then carry on! However, if your organization takes a dim view of production server downtime, then I would caution you against proceeding! You don't need to be a linux expert to install zope, but you do need at least a rudimentary understanding of how linux works and how some basic commands work. I would recommend spending some time reading the intro chapters of some linux documentation (you can find some at http://www.linux.org/docs/, and there is a good doc at: http://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/rhel-rg-en-4/) - it may seem like a waste of time, but it will save you time and aggravation in the future. If you do not want to spend the time on linux/zope and you just want to 'get working', you could look at some of the zope hosting companies (they already have zope up and running, and they look after maintaining the 'infrastructure', which lets you focus on your application). Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes
o.k. when running that I saw this: unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 546729 15600/python /home/zope/instance/var/zopectlsock.15599 Does this mean it's running? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 July 2006 15:44 To: russ Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes if your zope instance does not show in the output from: netstat -ap | grep LISTEN (issued as root) then there's no sense in trying to figure out how to telnet to localhost 8080 (or whatever port your zope is running on) as there's nothing listening for the inbound connection. i.e., until your zope instance is running correctly so shows up in the netstat output, trying to connect inbound to it will fail and prove nothing. [there are a variety of things that can cause an inbound connection to a service to fail. you need to take the debugging one step at a time, starting with confirming that there's actually a service running.] - Rick Original Message Date: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:28:46 AM +0100 From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes What does it mean if this is listed under ps -eLf: zope 15601 15600 15601 01 Jul05 ?00:00:05 /usr/bin/python /usr/ ...but isn't anywhere to be seen under netstat -p ? how do I telnet to port 8080 *on* the same machine? Sorry :S -Original Message- From: replies-lists-zope Sent: 05 July 2006 18:59 To: russ Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes use the ps command to see that that process is still running. also use the netstat command (with the -p flag (as root)) to see/confirm what port zope is listening on. if it's running, on port 8080, then try to telnet to port 8080, both as localhost 8080 and hostname 8080 (both from the server itself). if both of those work, then telnet to hostname 8080 from a remote machine (e.g., the desktop machine you've been using your browser from). if the telnets from the server work, but the telnet from the remote host doesn't, then your issue is likely to be a firewall. Original Message Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 06:24:40 PM +0100 From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jonathan' [EMAIL PROTECTED], zope@zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes Well I've tried to follow your steps with the exception of point 15 (mkzopeinstance.py doesn't reside in my python directory, it's in the zope/bin folder). At the last stage I hit enter and got: bash-3.00$ ./zopectl start . daemon process started, pid=15601 And now what? http://www.domain.tld:8080 still produces nothing. :( ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
no offense, but you should really listen to those advice given. it'll take you lesser time to get a working web application than to do it on the job as you said. i hope you do realise that on-the-job could also mean researching and studying the work at hand before actually being more productive. you didn't read the docs properly to get zope running, IMHO. if you wanna get zope+cmf running well and to what you want, start reading and learn. On 7/6/06, russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: o.k. when running that I saw this: unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 546729 15600/python /home/zope/instance/var/zopectlsock.15599 Does this mean it's running? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 July 2006 15:44 To: russ Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes if your zope instance does not show in the output from: netstat -ap | grep LISTEN (issued as root) then there's no sense in trying to figure out how to telnet to localhost 8080 (or whatever port your zope is running on) as there's nothing listening for the inbound connection. i.e., until your zope instance is running correctly so shows up in the netstat output, trying to connect inbound to it will fail and prove nothing. [there are a variety of things that can cause an inbound connection to a service to fail. you need to take the debugging one step at a time, starting with confirming that there's actually a service running.] - Rick Original Message Date: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:28:46 AM +0100 From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes What does it mean if this is listed under ps -eLf: zope 15601 15600 15601 01 Jul05 ?00:00:05 /usr/bin/python /usr/ ...but isn't anywhere to be seen under netstat -p ? how do I telnet to port 8080 *on* the same machine? Sorry :S -Original Message- From: replies-lists-zope Sent: 05 July 2006 18:59 To: russ Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes use the ps command to see that that process is still running. also use the netstat command (with the -p flag (as root)) to see/confirm what port zope is listening on. if it's running, on port 8080, then try to telnet to port 8080, both as localhost 8080 and hostname 8080 (both from the server itself). if both of those work, then telnet to hostname 8080 from a remote machine (e.g., the desktop machine you've been using your browser from). if the telnets from the server work, but the telnet from the remote host doesn't, then your issue is likely to be a firewall. Original Message Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 06:24:40 PM +0100 From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jonathan' [EMAIL PROTECTED], zope@zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes Well I've tried to follow your steps with the exception of point 15 (mkzopeinstance.py doesn't reside in my python directory, it's in the zope/bin folder). At the last stage I hit enter and got: bash-3.00$ ./zopectl start . daemon process started, pid=15601 And now what? http://www.domain.tld:8080 still produces nothing. :( ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
It looks like it is already running. Use top and look for a process called
python.
Did you try the url in a browser on port 8080?
Jake
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On Wed, July 5, 2006 10:31 am, russ said:
Hello Zopesters,
Firstly, I must say that I'm completely new to this as I usually develop
front-end stuff, so excuse my ignorance. Right... that's out of the way -
I
have been trying to install Zope on a server I have access to via SSH.
I've
followed the instructions for installing it from source found here:
http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/setup-from-source
I've got as far as making an instance and then attempting to start Zope.
First of all I got this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/runzope
/usr/local/zope/zope2.9.3/lib/python/ZServer/utils.py:33:
DeprecationWarning: The zLOG package is deprecated and will be removed in
Zope 2.11. Use the Python logging module instead.
LOG('ZServer', severity[type], message)
/usr/local/zope/zope2.9.3/lib/python/Signals/SignalHandler.py:39:
DeprecationWarning: The zLOG package is deprecated and will be removed in
Zope 2.11. Use the Python logging module instead.
zLOG.LOG('Z2', zLOG.BLATHER, Installed sighandler for %s % (
...and then nothing :-| I tried running it again got the following:
snipped output
ZConfig.ConfigurationError: There was a problem starting a server of type
HTTPS erver. This may mean that your user does not have permission to
bind
to the por t which the server is trying to use or the port may already be
in
use by another application. (Address already in use)
The log file reports it's running, yet I cannot seem to access the start
page from http://myserverip:8080.
I don't know what to do next? Can anyone please help me out?
:(
R.
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RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes
Hi Jake,
Firstly I'll just mention a little bit more about the server. We have
cPanel and Apache running. There's a number of accounts setup in cPanel and
I've tried to access Zope via one of these urls (www.domain.tld:8080) but to
no avail. I've also tried the IP of the server with no luck. I don't know
what else to try now, as I mentioned before I'm completely new to all of
this stuff so it's quite a steep learning curve. I also don't know what you
mean by use top :S
Thanks for your reply BTW.
R.
-Original Message-
From: Jake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 July 2006 15:56
To: russ
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
It looks like it is already running. Use top and look for a process called
python.
Did you try the url in a browser on port 8080?
Jake
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On Wed, July 5, 2006 10:31 am, russ said:
Hello Zopesters,
Firstly, I must say that I'm completely new to this as I usually develop
front-end stuff, so excuse my ignorance. Right... that's out of the way -
I
have been trying to install Zope on a server I have access to via SSH.
I've
followed the instructions for installing it from source found here:
http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/setup-from-source
I've got as far as making an instance and then attempting to start Zope.
First of all I got this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/runzope
/usr/local/zope/zope2.9.3/lib/python/ZServer/utils.py:33:
DeprecationWarning: The zLOG package is deprecated and will be removed in
Zope 2.11. Use the Python logging module instead.
LOG('ZServer', severity[type], message)
/usr/local/zope/zope2.9.3/lib/python/Signals/SignalHandler.py:39:
DeprecationWarning: The zLOG package is deprecated and will be removed in
Zope 2.11. Use the Python logging module instead.
zLOG.LOG('Z2', zLOG.BLATHER, Installed sighandler for %s % (
...and then nothing :-| I tried running it again got the following:
snipped output
ZConfig.ConfigurationError: There was a problem starting a server of type
HTTPS erver. This may mean that your user does not have permission to
bind
to the por t which the server is trying to use or the port may already be
in
use by another application. (Address already in use)
The log file reports it's running, yet I cannot seem to access the start
page from http://myserverip:8080.
I don't know what to do next? Can anyone please help me out?
:(
R.
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Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
At the o/s command prompt, type: ps -eLf
You should see a listing which contains some zope/python entries if zope is
running.
If zope is not running try starting zope with the command: ./zopectl fg
this should allow you to see any errors that are generated while zope tries
to start up.
hth
Jonathan
- Original Message -
From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes
Hi Jake,
Firstly I'll just mention a little bit more about the server. We have
cPanel and Apache running. There's a number of accounts setup in cPanel
and
I've tried to access Zope via one of these urls (www.domain.tld:8080) but
to
no avail. I've also tried the IP of the server with no luck. I don't
know
what else to try now, as I mentioned before I'm completely new to all of
this stuff so it's quite a steep learning curve. I also don't know what
you
mean by use top :S
Thanks for your reply BTW.
R.
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From: Jake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 July 2006 15:56
To: russ
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
It looks like it is already running. Use top and look for a process called
python.
Did you try the url in a browser on port 8080?
Jake
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On Wed, July 5, 2006 10:31 am, russ said:
Hello Zopesters,
Firstly, I must say that I'm completely new to this as I usually develop
front-end stuff, so excuse my ignorance. Right... that's out of the
way -
I
have been trying to install Zope on a server I have access to via SSH.
I've
followed the instructions for installing it from source found here:
http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/setup-from-source
I've got as far as making an instance and then attempting to start Zope.
First of all I got this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/runzope
/usr/local/zope/zope2.9.3/lib/python/ZServer/utils.py:33:
DeprecationWarning: The zLOG package is deprecated and will be removed in
Zope 2.11. Use the Python logging module instead.
LOG('ZServer', severity[type], message)
/usr/local/zope/zope2.9.3/lib/python/Signals/SignalHandler.py:39:
DeprecationWarning: The zLOG package is deprecated and will be removed in
Zope 2.11. Use the Python logging module instead.
zLOG.LOG('Z2', zLOG.BLATHER, Installed sighandler for %s % (
...and then nothing :-| I tried running it again got the following:
snipped output
ZConfig.ConfigurationError: There was a problem starting a server of type
HTTPS erver. This may mean that your user does not have permission to
bind
to the por t which the server is trying to use or the port may already be
in
use by another application. (Address already in use)
The log file reports it's running, yet I cannot seem to access the start
page from http://myserverip:8080.
I don't know what to do next? Can anyone please help me out?
:(
R.
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RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes
O.k. thanks, There are a number of lines like this: mailman 2485 2468 2485 01 Jun29 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /u ...and a few like this: root 12796 11967 12796 01 13:10 pts/100:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/ I can't see anything relating to zope specifically running the zopect1 command results in this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory -Original Message- From: Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 July 2006 16:15 To: russ; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes At the o/s command prompt, type: ps -eLf You should see a listing which contains some zope/python entries if zope is running. If zope is not running try starting zope with the command: ./zopectl fg this should allow you to see any errors that are generated while zope tries to start up. hth Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
- Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes O.k. thanks, There are a number of lines like this: mailman 2485 2468 2485 01 Jun29 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /u ...and a few like this: root 12796 11967 12796 01 13:10 pts/100:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/ These are not zope entries, you are looking for something like: zope 3158 1 3158 01 07:52 ?00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -S /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/l zope 3159 3158 3159 05 07:52 ?00:00:02 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py -C /apps/zope/etc/zope I can't see anything relating to zope specifically running the zopect1 command results in this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory in your local zope/bin directory you should have some script files like: runzope, runzope.bat and zopectl (this is what I have with zope 2.9.2 installation) If you do not have these files, then something is truly pooched. Here are the steps I used to install zope 2.9.2 (linux os) 1) download zope 2.9.2 tarball into /usr/local/src (I used wget) 2) tar -xzf the zope tarball (unpack it) 3) change directory (cd) to the new zope subdirectory (created by the tar command) 4) make sure you have python 2.4.2 (this is for zope 2.9.2, check what you need for zope 2.9.3). My python 2.4.2 is installed in /usr/local/bin and this directory is contained with the PATH environment variable (type echo $PATH at the command prompt - if the directory containing your python 2.x is not in PATH you will need to modify PATH) 5) at the command line enter: ./configure 6) at the command line enter: make 7) at the command line enter: make install(This will install zope in /usr/local/zope-2.9.x) Now you need to add a 'zope' user to your system (if you do not already have one) 8) cd /etc 9) groupadd zope (unless you already have a zope group defined) 10) useradd -g zope zope (this creates a zope user) 11) passwd zope (sets a password for the new user) 12) usermod -d /apps/zope zope (sets the home directory for the new user to /apps/zope) Now you need to create a zope instance: 13) change directory to /usr/local/zope-2.9.x/bin 14) su zope (change to the zope user you created earlier) 15) at the command line enter: /usr/local/bin/python mkzopeinstance.py (note: replace /usr/local/bin/python with the location of your python 2.4.x installation) You will be prompted for a zope instance home (i use /apps/zope), a username and a password (your zope admin account) 16) change directory to the new zope instance home (eg. cd /apps/zope) and you should see several subdirectories. 17) check the ownership of the directories/files - they should all be owned by zope and belong to the zope group. To change them enter: chown zope * (changes ownership); chgrp zope * (changes group) Now you need to make a couple of small changes to the zope.conf file: 18) cd /apps/zope/etc 19) edit the zope.conf file (save a copy first!) and change debug-mode to 'on' (optional) and change effective-user to 'zope' Now you need to start the zope instance: 20) cd /apps/zope/bin 21) ./zopectl start (or ./zopectl fg in case of errors during start up) HTH! Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
russ wrote: O.k. thanks, There are a number of lines like this: mailman 2485 2468 2485 01 Jun29 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /u ...and a few like this: root 12796 11967 12796 01 13:10 pts/100:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/ I can't see anything relating to zope specifically running the zopect1 command results in this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory Hi russ, change zopect1 to zopectl :-) David ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes
Well I've tried to follow your steps with the exception of point 15 (mkzopeinstance.py doesn't reside in my python directory, it's in the zope/bin folder). At the last stage I hit enter and got: bash-3.00$ ./zopectl start . daemon process started, pid=15601 And now what? http://www.domain.tld:8080 still produces nothing. :( -Original Message- From: Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 July 2006 17:14 To: russ; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes O.k. thanks, There are a number of lines like this: mailman 2485 2468 2485 01 Jun29 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /u ...and a few like this: root 12796 11967 12796 01 13:10 pts/100:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/ These are not zope entries, you are looking for something like: zope 3158 1 3158 01 07:52 ?00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -S /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/l zope 3159 3158 3159 05 07:52 ?00:00:02 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py -C /apps/zope/etc/zope I can't see anything relating to zope specifically running the zopect1 command results in this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory in your local zope/bin directory you should have some script files like: runzope, runzope.bat and zopectl (this is what I have with zope 2.9.2 installation) If you do not have these files, then something is truly pooched. Here are the steps I used to install zope 2.9.2 (linux os) 1) download zope 2.9.2 tarball into /usr/local/src (I used wget) 2) tar -xzf the zope tarball (unpack it) 3) change directory (cd) to the new zope subdirectory (created by the tar command) 4) make sure you have python 2.4.2 (this is for zope 2.9.2, check what you need for zope 2.9.3). My python 2.4.2 is installed in /usr/local/bin and this directory is contained with the PATH environment variable (type echo $PATH at the command prompt - if the directory containing your python 2.x is not in PATH you will need to modify PATH) 5) at the command line enter: ./configure 6) at the command line enter: make 7) at the command line enter: make install(This will install zope in /usr/local/zope-2.9.x) Now you need to add a 'zope' user to your system (if you do not already have one) 8) cd /etc 9) groupadd zope (unless you already have a zope group defined) 10) useradd -g zope zope (this creates a zope user) 11) passwd zope (sets a password for the new user) 12) usermod -d /apps/zope zope (sets the home directory for the new user to /apps/zope) Now you need to create a zope instance: 13) change directory to /usr/local/zope-2.9.x/bin 14) su zope (change to the zope user you created earlier) 15) at the command line enter: /usr/local/bin/python mkzopeinstance.py (note: replace /usr/local/bin/python with the location of your python 2.4.x installation) You will be prompted for a zope instance home (i use /apps/zope), a username and a password (your zope admin account) 16) change directory to the new zope instance home (eg. cd /apps/zope) and you should see several subdirectories. 17) check the ownership of the directories/files - they should all be owned by zope and belong to the zope group. To change them enter: chown zope * (changes ownership); chgrp zope * (changes group) Now you need to make a couple of small changes to the zope.conf file: 18) cd /apps/zope/etc 19) edit the zope.conf file (save a copy first!) and change debug-mode to 'on' (optional) and change effective-user to 'zope' Now you need to start the zope instance: 20) cd /apps/zope/bin 21) ./zopectl start (or ./zopectl fg in case of errors during start up) HTH! Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
- Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jonathan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes Well I've tried to follow your steps with the exception of point 15 (mkzopeinstance.py doesn't reside in my python directory, it's in the zope/bin folder). At the last stage I hit enter and got: bash-3.00$ ./zopectl start . daemon process started, pid=15601 And now what? http://www.domain.tld:8080 still produces nothing. That sounds like a good start! try ps -eLf at the command line, do you see the zope processes running? If your browser is running on the same machine try: http://localhost:8080 To see which ports zope is working with look at the file.../etc/zope.conf and look for two things: (1) http-server and (2) port-base (the zope.conf file contains comments which will tell you what you need to know). If you have apache running as a web server in front of zope you will need to configure apache (you can find info here: http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/Zope_and_Apache) Good luck! Jonathan :( -Original Message- From: Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 July 2006 17:14 To: russ; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes O.k. thanks, There are a number of lines like this: mailman 2485 2468 2485 01 Jun29 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /u ...and a few like this: root 12796 11967 12796 01 13:10 pts/100:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/ These are not zope entries, you are looking for something like: zope 3158 1 3158 01 07:52 ?00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -S /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/l zope 3159 3158 3159 05 07:52 ?00:00:02 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py -C /apps/zope/etc/zope I can't see anything relating to zope specifically running the zopect1 command results in this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory in your local zope/bin directory you should have some script files like: runzope, runzope.bat and zopectl (this is what I have with zope 2.9.2 installation) If you do not have these files, then something is truly pooched. Here are the steps I used to install zope 2.9.2 (linux os) 1) download zope 2.9.2 tarball into /usr/local/src (I used wget) 2) tar -xzf the zope tarball (unpack it) 3) change directory (cd) to the new zope subdirectory (created by the tar command) 4) make sure you have python 2.4.2 (this is for zope 2.9.2, check what you need for zope 2.9.3). My python 2.4.2 is installed in /usr/local/bin and this directory is contained with the PATH environment variable (type echo $PATH at the command prompt - if the directory containing your python 2.x is not in PATH you will need to modify PATH) 5) at the command line enter: ./configure 6) at the command line enter: make 7) at the command line enter: make install(This will install zope in /usr/local/zope-2.9.x) Now you need to add a 'zope' user to your system (if you do not already have one) 8) cd /etc 9) groupadd zope (unless you already have a zope group defined) 10) useradd -g zope zope (this creates a zope user) 11) passwd zope (sets a password for the new user) 12) usermod -d /apps/zope zope (sets the home directory for the new user to /apps/zope) Now you need to create a zope instance: 13) change directory to /usr/local/zope-2.9.x/bin 14) su zope (change to the zope user you created earlier) 15) at the command line enter: /usr/local/bin/python mkzopeinstance.py (note: replace /usr/local/bin/python with the location of your python 2.4.x installation) You will be prompted for a zope instance home (i use /apps/zope), a username and a password (your zope admin account) 16) change directory to the new zope instance home (eg. cd /apps/zope) and you should see several subdirectories. 17) check the ownership of the directories/files - they should all be owned by zope and belong to the zope group. To change them enter: chown zope * (changes ownership); chgrp zope * (changes group) Now you need to make a couple of small changes to the zope.conf file: 18) cd /apps/zope/etc 19) edit the zope.conf file (save a copy first!) and change debug-mode to 'on' (optional) and change effective-user to 'zope' Now you need to start the zope instance: 20) cd /apps/zope/bin 21) ./zopectl start (or ./zopectl fg in case of errors during start up) HTH! Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding
Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes
Apache's default port is 80. Have you tried that? (i haven't kept the earlier part of this thread, and I can't remember what you have tried). Do you have a rewrite rule set up in apache? (something like: RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8080/$1 [P]) Don't give up! Once you have zoped you'll never go back ;-) Jonathan - Original Message - From: russtik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jonathan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes ps -eLf results show this: zope 15600 1 15600 01 18:14 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/ zope 15601 15600 15601 01 18:14 ?00:00:05 /usr/bin/python /usr/ I don't have physical access to the machine, so I don't know how to test port 8080 on localhost. I can't find anything in netstat -p that looks like it would relate to Zope either. The zope.conf is set to use 8080. So... any more ideas guys? Even though Apache is running I should still be able to test Zope though surely? R. -Original Message- From: Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 July 2006 18:45 To: russ; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jonathan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes Well I've tried to follow your steps with the exception of point 15 (mkzopeinstance.py doesn't reside in my python directory, it's in the zope/bin folder). At the last stage I hit enter and got: bash-3.00$ ./zopectl start . daemon process started, pid=15601 And now what? http://www.domain.tld:8080 still produces nothing. That sounds like a good start! try ps -eLf at the command line, do you see the zope processes running? If your browser is running on the same machine try: http://localhost:8080 To see which ports zope is working with look at the file.../etc/zope.conf and look for two things: (1) http-server and (2) port-base (the zope.conf file contains comments which will tell you what you need to know). If you have apache running as a web server in front of zope you will need to configure apache (you can find info here: http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/Zope_and_Apache) Good luck! Jonathan :( -Original Message- From: Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 July 2006 17:14 To: russ; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope installation woes - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope installation woes O.k. thanks, There are a number of lines like this: mailman 2485 2468 2485 01 Jun29 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /u ...and a few like this: root 12796 11967 12796 01 13:10 pts/100:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/ These are not zope entries, you are looking for something like: zope 3158 1 3158 01 07:52 ?00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -S /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/l zope 3159 3158 3159 05 07:52 ?00:00:02 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/Zope-2.9.2/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py -C /apps/zope/etc/zope I can't see anything relating to zope specifically running the zopect1 command results in this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/local/zope/instance3/bin]# /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1 fg -bash: /usr/local/zope/instance3/bin/zopect1: No such file or directory in your local zope/bin directory you should have some script files like: runzope, runzope.bat and zopectl (this is what I have with zope 2.9.2 installation) If you do not have these files, then something is truly pooched. Here are the steps I used to install zope 2.9.2 (linux os) 1) download zope 2.9.2 tarball into /usr/local/src (I used wget) 2) tar -xzf the zope tarball (unpack it) 3) change directory (cd) to the new zope subdirectory (created by the tar command) 4) make sure you have python 2.4.2 (this is for zope 2.9.2, check what you need for zope 2.9.3). My python 2.4.2 is installed in /usr/local/bin and this directory is contained with the PATH environment variable (type echo $PATH at the command prompt - if the directory containing your python 2.x is not in PATH you will need to modify PATH) 5) at the command line enter: ./configure 6) at the command line enter: make 7) at the command line enter: make install(This will install zope in /usr/local/zope-2.9.x) Now you need to add a 'zope' user to your system (if you do not already have one) 8) cd /etc 9) groupadd zope (unless you already have a zope group defined) 10) useradd -g zope zope (this creates a zope user) 11) passwd zope (sets a password for the new user) 12) usermod -d /apps/zope zope (sets the home directory for the new user to /apps/zope) Now you need to create a zope instance: 13) change directory to /usr/local/zope-2.9
