On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:14 AM, John Goodleaf <[email protected]> wrote:
> PyCharm uses the same foundations for non-Python files as Intelli J. I think
> that's one thing that PyCharm does quite a bit better than, say, WingIDE.
> Support for HTML, CSS and Javascript are all excellent, and several
> templating engines' files are also supported.

I saw that -- but it look as very focused on Python-related
development -- i.e. if you're building a web app, you're going to need
html, CSS, javascript -- but what about stuff that has nothing to do
with Python?

LaTeX
Plain Text
Fortran (!)
C / C++

who knows what else?

It may well be easy to plug decent modes for various stuff into it --
I"ve haven't tried, I just think its an odd choice to be selling each
IDE as it's own thing. And I fi do need to also do Java, Ruby, what
have you, do I really need to run three different editors/IDEs -- even
if they share a core?

but I'm ranting about something I haven't really tried yet...

-Chris





 Even CoffeeScript is
> well-supported. In my view, PyCharm has surpassed Wing as the best IDE for
> Python. (I do love Sublime though.)
>
> --
> John Goodleaf
>
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Andrew Brookins <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> but I couldn't see how to do that in a language-specific way -- i.e I
> definatly want that in Python ,but may not in other modes.
>
>
> This is in Preferences -> "Settings - More" -> "Syntax Specific - User" on
> OS X.
>
>
> ah, fount it -- thanks. It's bit tricky as that's blank to begin with,
> but easy to copy and paste from the main preferences.
>
> Getting there with this.
>
> I also note that it used different key bindings on different platforms
> -- darn! that's a pain, one of things I look for in an editor is that
> it works the same everywhere (and works everywhere)
>
>
> This one of the nice things about Vim and Emacs. Of course, some
> people complain about the archaic shortcuts and want the program to
> reflect the OS better.
>
>
> yup -- the main reason I dumped (x)emacs a while back -- I want at
> least basic stuff like cut and paste to be platform-standard.
>
> The thing is, sublime text seems to have gratuitous differences --
> i.e. for the most part, ctrl+something on Windows is cmd_something in
> the Mac -- i.e cut, paste, etc. but they have alt_something on windows
> mapped to shift_something in the Mac -- huh?
>
> I'll need to look into re-mapping the bindings, that can probably be done.
>
> Recently I tried PyCharm 2 and found it had improved a lot from
> version 1. It can't match the fluidity of editing with a stripped-down
> Vim or ST 2 install (ie not a bunch of plugins), but the refactoring,
> code intelligence and testing integration is much better than what you
> find even with a sandwich of plugins in those editors.
>
>
> worth a good look -- I was impressed by those guys at PyCon -- they
> really seemed to be working hard on making it work well for Python --
> and some folks have worked on Cython integration for it too.
>
> However, I really want to use the same editor fro everyting I edit --
> one of the great strengths of (X)emacs -- it had really good modes for
> virtually everything. Not sure how PyCharm does for non-python files
> (plain text, LaTex, C, C++, html, CSS ....) What's with having
> different products for each language?
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
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