Hello Sumit.

It has been my experience that even using your algorithm, a brute force
cracker will determine your password.  Of course, most brute force methods
will crack any password.

What I do is pick a word.  The word must be six to eight characters (range
of my mainframe).  Most Is are replaced by ones, Os are replaced by zeros,
and Es are replaced by threes (but not all because that's a detectable
pattern).  If the word has a number imbedded, like "intuitive" (two is
imbedded), I replace the letters with the appropriate number (1n2itive).
Sometimes I change the case of the first letter that also exists in the
current month's name, but since my LAN and one app on the mainframe are case
insensitive, it's a pointless change.  Above all, I don't use any program or
written procedures, which eliminates any detectable patterns.

Cheers,
L

-----Original Message-----
From: Sumit Dhar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Password Generation Procedure?


Hello Everyone,

Generating a password that is hard to guess is a challenge most of us
have to face sometime or the other. I initially used to think names of
arbit characters from novels were a good password till a friend showed
me the cracked version of my password.

That got me thinking till I came up with a good way to generate
passwords. What I would do would be to take a long song that I
remembered easily and use the first letter of each word in that song.

So Nothing's Gonna Change My Love For You became ngcmlfy. The advantage
of this method was the password was certainly not "predictable" even if
someone saw 75% of my passwd. What I mean is just yesterday, I saw a
friend type f?o?o2??0. A few tries later, I could guess it was
frodo2000. With password like ngcmlfy, such guessing becomes difficult.
To make things even tougher, you could add initials of the singer George
Benson to the password. ngcmlfygb is even better. You can remember it
easily, but unless the other chap knows the concept behind it, he will
have a hard time remembering it even if he sees all the letters.

Given most of the people on this list must be  paranoid, I am sure they
have such algorithms to generate such passwords. So would you step
forward and care to explain some nice methods by which you generate your
passwords. The best algorithm wins a beer from me in India. :))

On a side note, I wonder why someone has not taken a list of songs,
poems, famous movies, novels etc and fed it to a dictionary program for
a password cracker.

Cheers,
<a href=http://dhar.homelinux.com/dhar/>Sumit Dhar</a>
Manager, Business Development and Products,
SLMsoft.com

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