Dear All,

We received the request below from the European Commission. 

Whom would be willing to volunteer to address this ? I think this splits into 3 
chunks:

-       Help explain (just like the hearing in the US, etc) what we do already; 
around releases, scrutiny, governance, CVE's, etc.

-       Help explain the limits of what a professional body of engineers as 
individuals collectively can do (versus industry or the public sector)

-       Collectively discuss where we can improve; or what can be done to 
improve things for the industry.

And finally - I think we should also discuss here if it makes sense to do some 
specific effort on our attic/orphaned projects -- but I'll post that as a 
separate message.

As a next step - it would be helpful to have peoples thoughts on these 
questions - so we can then summarise them in a document/email.

With kind regards,

Dw.



ARORA Saranjit Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear Sally and Dear DW
 
I am currently working on a new open source programme called FOSSEPS, this time 
externally focussed towards European Public Services, or public 
administrations.  Here we are (i) building an open source EU Business 
Applications catalogue, pulling together data from a number of national 
catalogues. This way people can reuse, rather than re-build the same 
application all over again! (ii) We are also asking European Public Services 
and selected others (this includes yourselves, the ASF) to help us identify 
software projects that are in a state of critical health… i.e. in ICU, and may 
not survive.  So, they are also critical, in that we rely on their continued 
existence, to run our other systems. (iii) we want to encourage European public 
administrations to work together on open source matters, i.e. on GovFoss.
 
Today, I am writing to you re #2 – Identifying Critical Software Projects. This 
is particularly relevant to you, given your recent experience of having to deal 
with the Log4shell incident. We read your position paper with great interest.  
We have sent out a survey and a help Guide to public administrations, but for 
open source experts we are holding 45 minute calls.  We would be very 
interested in discussing your views on critical software, long-term FOSS 
maintenance/sustainability, and looking at security and other issues.
 
Sally/Dirk, would you be kind enough to identify the right people and/or send 
us the right information?  We are looking to (i) hold a session with ASF, and 
so request a date/time after 28th of March, and (ii) request your list of 
critical software that you would have identified? In due course, we are also 
looking at remedies to remove such criticality and see how we can nurse these 
projects back to health.
 
------- Sample questions for the session -----------------
 
- Are there specific processes to identify projects with maintenance or 
security problems among Apache Software Foundation projects?
 
- Do you have a specific policy regarding the sustainability of the 
*dependencies* of projects hosted by the Apache Foundation?
 
- According to your experience, what are currently the main challenges or 
problems related to FOSS maintenance/sustainability?
 
- What are the most promising initiatives for finding solutions to those 
problems or taking up those challenges today? (both from a security point of 
view and from a maintainers' financial/mental health sustainability point of 
view?)
 
- Do you feel that there is a need for more commonly agreed metrics or publicly 
available sources of data to assess the health of open Source projects?
 
- As seen from the outside, it seems to us that the Executive Order on 
Improving the Nation’s Cybersecurity had a key role in the progress currently 
being made: in your opinion was the political decision actually decisive or was 
it just one amongst many converging factors?
 
- More generally, would you consider that governments/public bodies should take 
specific actions on this topic?
 
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Regards
 
Saranjit ARORA
Senior Consultant/Project Manager (Working Mon-Thu)
Member of the European Commission OSPO (Open Source Programme Office)
Project Manager of FOSSEPS (Free and Open Source Software for European Public 
Services) Pilot Project
Previously Project Manager of the EU-FOSSA 2 Project and the project dealing 
with Open Source Software Inventory, Security, Sustainability and Funding 
Initiatives for European Public Services within the 2020 ISA2 Sharing and 
Re-use action (2016.31)
 
European Commission
DG Informatics, Unit B.3 – Reusable Solutions, MO15 06/P010, B-1049 
Brussels/Belgium (phone # / signal / telegram redacted)
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