Hi Dirk,

I have a bit more time in the coming months, being working half time, and I'm 
willing to help to the extent of my competence, of course.

Let me know where I can help.

Thanks,
Emmanuel

On 2022/03/29 09:31:58 Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> We received the request below from the European Commission. 
> 
> Whom would be willing to volunteer to address this ? I think this splits into 
> 3 chunks:
> 
> -     Help explain (just like the hearing in the US, etc) what we do already; 
> around releases, scrutiny, governance, CVE's, etc.
> 
> -     Help explain the limits of what a professional body of engineers as 
> individuals collectively can do (versus industry or the public sector)
> 
> -     Collectively discuss where we can improve; or what can be done to 
> improve things for the industry.
> 
> And finally - I think we should also discuss here if it makes sense to do 
> some specific effort on our attic/orphaned projects -- but I'll post that as 
> a separate message.
> 
> As a next step - it would be helpful to have peoples thoughts on these 
> questions - so we can then summarise them in a document/email.
> 
> With kind regards,
> 
> Dw.
> 
> 
> 
> ARORA Saranjit Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dear Sally and Dear DW
>  
> I am currently working on a new open source programme called FOSSEPS, this 
> time externally focussed towards European Public Services, or public 
> administrations.  Here we are (i) building an open source EU Business 
> Applications catalogue, pulling together data from a number of national 
> catalogues. This way people can reuse, rather than re-build the same 
> application all over again! (ii) We are also asking European Public Services 
> and selected others (this includes yourselves, the ASF) to help us identify 
> software projects that are in a state of critical health… i.e. in ICU, and 
> may not survive.  So, they are also critical, in that we rely on their 
> continued existence, to run our other systems. (iii) we want to encourage 
> European public administrations to work together on open source matters, i.e. 
> on GovFoss.
>  
> Today, I am writing to you re #2 – Identifying Critical Software Projects. 
> This is particularly relevant to you, given your recent experience of having 
> to deal with the Log4shell incident. We read your position paper with great 
> interest.  We have sent out a survey and a help Guide to public 
> administrations, but for open source experts we are holding 45 minute calls.  
> We would be very interested in discussing your views on critical software, 
> long-term FOSS maintenance/sustainability, and looking at security and other 
> issues.
>  
> Sally/Dirk, would you be kind enough to identify the right people and/or send 
> us the right information?  We are looking to (i) hold a session with ASF, and 
> so request a date/time after 28th of March, and (ii) request your list of 
> critical software that you would have identified? In due course, we are also 
> looking at remedies to remove such criticality and see how we can nurse these 
> projects back to health.
>  
> ------- Sample questions for the session -----------------
>  
> - Are there specific processes to identify projects with maintenance or 
> security problems among Apache Software Foundation projects?
>  
> - Do you have a specific policy regarding the sustainability of the 
> *dependencies* of projects hosted by the Apache Foundation?
>  
> - According to your experience, what are currently the main challenges or 
> problems related to FOSS maintenance/sustainability?
>  
> - What are the most promising initiatives for finding solutions to those 
> problems or taking up those challenges today? (both from a security point of 
> view and from a maintainers' financial/mental health sustainability point of 
> view?)
>  
> - Do you feel that there is a need for more commonly agreed metrics or 
> publicly available sources of data to assess the health of open Source 
> projects?
>  
> - As seen from the outside, it seems to us that the Executive Order on 
> Improving the Nation’s Cybersecurity had a key role in the progress currently 
> being made: in your opinion was the political decision actually decisive or 
> was it just one amongst many converging factors?
>  
> - More generally, would you consider that governments/public bodies should 
> take specific actions on this topic?
>  
> ---------------- end ----------------------------------------------
>  
>  
> Regards
>  
> Saranjit ARORA
> Senior Consultant/Project Manager (Working Mon-Thu)
> Member of the European Commission OSPO (Open Source Programme Office)
> Project Manager of FOSSEPS (Free and Open Source Software for European Public 
> Services) Pilot Project
> Previously Project Manager of the EU-FOSSA 2 Project and the project dealing 
> with Open Source Software Inventory, Security, Sustainability and Funding 
> Initiatives for European Public Services within the 2020 ISA2 Sharing and 
> Re-use action (2016.31)
>  
> European Commission
> DG Informatics, Unit B.3 – Reusable Solutions, MO15 06/P010, B-1049 
> Brussels/Belgium (phone # / signal / telegram redacted)
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