Hi

I followed the white house meeting, am member of the Logging PMC and was
involved in the log4j happenings in late december. I am however not one of
the log4j developers.

Let me know if I can help in any way. Most of this sounds like what we
already worked out for the white house meeting.

Happy to help,
Dominik
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On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, 14:52 Emmanuel Lécharny <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Dirk,
>
> I have a bit more time in the coming months, being working half time, and
> I'm willing to help to the extent of my competence, of course.
>
> Let me know where I can help.
>
> Thanks,
> Emmanuel
>
> On 2022/03/29 09:31:58 Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > We received the request below from the European Commission.
> >
> > Whom would be willing to volunteer to address this ? I think this splits
> into 3 chunks:
> >
> > -     Help explain (just like the hearing in the US, etc) what we do
> already; around releases, scrutiny, governance, CVE's, etc.
> >
> > -     Help explain the limits of what a professional body of engineers
> as individuals collectively can do (versus industry or the public sector)
> >
> > -     Collectively discuss where we can improve; or what can be done to
> improve things for the industry.
> >
> > And finally - I think we should also discuss here if it makes sense to
> do some specific effort on our attic/orphaned projects -- but I'll post
> that as a separate message.
> >
> > As a next step - it would be helpful to have peoples thoughts on these
> questions - so we can then summarise them in a document/email.
> >
> > With kind regards,
> >
> > Dw.
> >
> >
> >
> > ARORA Saranjit Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Sally and Dear DW
> >
> > I am currently working on a new open source programme called FOSSEPS,
> this time externally focussed towards European Public Services, or public
> administrations.  Here we are (i) building an open source EU Business
> Applications catalogue, pulling together data from a number of national
> catalogues. This way people can reuse, rather than re-build the same
> application all over again! (ii) We are also asking European Public
> Services and selected others (this includes yourselves, the ASF) to help us
> identify software projects that are in a state of critical health… i.e. in
> ICU, and may not survive.  So, they are also critical, in that we rely on
> their continued existence, to run our other systems. (iii) we want to
> encourage European public administrations to work together on open source
> matters, i.e. on GovFoss.
> >
> > Today, I am writing to you re #2 – Identifying Critical Software
> Projects. This is particularly relevant to you, given your recent
> experience of having to deal with the Log4shell incident. We read your
> position paper with great interest.  We have sent out a survey and a help
> Guide to public administrations, but for open source experts we are holding
> 45 minute calls.  We would be very interested in discussing your views on
> critical software, long-term FOSS maintenance/sustainability, and looking
> at security and other issues.
> >
> > Sally/Dirk, would you be kind enough to identify the right people and/or
> send us the right information?  We are looking to (i) hold a session with
> ASF, and so request a date/time after 28th of March, and (ii) request your
> list of critical software that you would have identified? In due course, we
> are also looking at remedies to remove such criticality and see how we can
> nurse these projects back to health.
> >
> > ------- Sample questions for the session -----------------
> >
> > - Are there specific processes to identify projects with maintenance or
> security problems among Apache Software Foundation projects?
> >
> > - Do you have a specific policy regarding the sustainability of the
> *dependencies* of projects hosted by the Apache Foundation?
> >
> > - According to your experience, what are currently the main challenges
> or problems related to FOSS maintenance/sustainability?
> >
> > - What are the most promising initiatives for finding solutions to those
> problems or taking up those challenges today? (both from a security point
> of view and from a maintainers' financial/mental health sustainability
> point of view?)
> >
> > - Do you feel that there is a need for more commonly agreed metrics or
> publicly available sources of data to assess the health of open Source
> projects?
> >
> > - As seen from the outside, it seems to us that the Executive Order on
> Improving the Nation’s Cybersecurity had a key role in the progress
> currently being made: in your opinion was the political decision actually
> decisive or was it just one amongst many converging factors?
> >
> > - More generally, would you consider that governments/public bodies
> should take specific actions on this topic?
> >
> > ---------------- end ----------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Saranjit ARORA
> > Senior Consultant/Project Manager (Working Mon-Thu)
> > Member of the European Commission OSPO (Open Source Programme Office)
> > Project Manager of FOSSEPS (Free and Open Source Software for European
> Public Services) Pilot Project
> > Previously Project Manager of the EU-FOSSA 2 Project and the project
> dealing with Open Source Software Inventory, Security, Sustainability and
> Funding Initiatives for European Public Services within the 2020 ISA2
> Sharing and Re-use action (2016.31)
> >
> > European Commission
> > DG Informatics, Unit B.3 – Reusable Solutions, MO15 06/P010, B-1049
> Brussels/Belgium (phone # / signal / telegram redacted)
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