There is a tension here between: Where do you create & edit the triples? Where/how do you view the triples?
In the semantic media wiki currently, these are conflated. You create, edit and view them on the page where they live. If you separate creating/editing from viewing, then you can view them from anywhere as ad-hoc views, esentially answers to queries tha could be presented in various ways from tables to graphs to whatever. The question then arises: where and how do you create them? You could still create them on a page where they are most likely to be viewed. But what if you created them separately, or imported them into your store say from other semantic web pages. Then you could view them any way you wanted from anywhere you put an inline query. There is an important question here: To what extent do you want to see where triples are created on the wiki pages themselves. Mostly we have been assuming that we want this. But if we have separate ways to create triples on or off the wiki pages, maybe this is not necessary. Mike ========================== Michael Uschold M&CT, Phantom Works 425 373-2845 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ========================== ---------------------------------------------------- COOL TIP: to skip the phone menu tree and get a human on the phone, go to: http://gethuman.com/tips.html -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Schwabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:48 AM To: David Karger Cc: Jack Park; semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Uschold, Michael F Subject: Re: [swikig] Creating Triples Anywhere in a Semantic Wiki '' Interesting, David, you've just described what we call "navigation nodes" in OOHDM/SHDM... These are "ad-hoc" "views" (in the sense of "assembled objects") made out of the core concepts (triples if you wish). Such "assemblies" are determined by the tasks you wish to support. Incidentally, we still distinguish them from the actual interface, which is yet another level of abstraction, where you decide how you want to present these "assemblies" (nodes) to the user. In other words, what you present may include part, a single or several such nodes, and these nodes are "ad-hoc" assemblies of basic information elements (resources). But, at this point, I'm a bit lost as to where the "wiki" is in this discussion - is it just the fact that you can edit collectively a set of triples? This is becoming increasingly more like what we define as a general hypermedia application (in this case, using the Semantic Web as a basic vocabulary do describe the data and concepts, as we do in SHDM)! -D On 27/4/2007 13:29, David Karger wrote: > ... Better way would be to have an "org chart view" that produces an > org chart from triples, together with an org chart editor that lets > you edit the nice view the org chart, then updates the underlying > triples in response to your edits. > > But if you want to be less ambitious, you can think about the > "infoboxes" that current wikis offer. Triples about a particular > entity fit naturally into the infobox for that entity. But in > multiple places---eg, the triple "Clinton vice-president Al-Gore" > should be in the infobox for Clinton, and _also_ the infobox for Al > Gore, and should be editable in both places. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-user mailing list Semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user
