Jack Park schrieb: > Imagine that large table indeed! > What if one wants to annotate each of the table entries? That is to say, > what if one wants to link a particular table entry, say, a television > set, to other web pages, add user comments about the product, etc. How > could one do that within the constraints of the lone wiki page that has > that table? > > My own response is that there is nothing wrong with "cluttering up" the > recent changes page with lots of new pages, each of which is a subject > in its own right. For portal designers and programmers to presume what > the ultimate portal users' needs will be, and to make judgments based on > ideas like "cluttered up" navigational aids suggests a possible weakness > in the core wiki architecture itself, that of relying on recent changes > and title index as the primary means of navigating a wiki (I'm not > forgetting search, here). Seems like there ought to be other options. > > I guess I am suggesting that semantic wiki creators, while working > really hard to integrate with the semantic web, need also to think in > terms of the navigation needs of human users; reliance on title listings > and recent changes listings is perhaps ready for as much rethinking as > are issues like where and how to put triples on pages. >
I could not agree more. For me, the problem with current Semantic Wikis (including our own) is that they are very good at collecting metadata but very bad at doing something with it. The real step forward would be to use this data for intelligently supporting the user in navigation, personalisation, etc. Unfortunately (or luckily), there is still research to be done in this area - I'd say the really hard work is still ahead of us. > Jack > > Pär Lannerö wrote: > >> 27 apr 2007 kl. 13.19 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> >> >>> While I personally like the page-centric approach of SemMediaWiki, I >>> always believed that an additional feature allowing a free flow of >>> triples would be convenient. >>> >> I second that. >> >> On the one hand, the page-centric approach means simplicity and ease >> of use, which won't hurt the Semantic Web at all. >> >> On the other hand, when we discussed these matters in the Nepomuk >> project, somebody (Max? Malte Kiesel?) provided the following problem >> description regarding the page-centric approach: >> >> "Imagine a large table that lists 100 products along with a >> short description and price. In order to express this in a semantic wiki >> that identifies a page with a resource, one gets forced to create 100 >> wiki >> pages, one for each row of the table, both cluttering title index and >> recent changes pages. " >> >> Preferrably, a semantic wiki should allow very simple page-centric >> statements as well as arbitrary triples. >> How can the two approaches best be combined? >> >> >> Best regards from a sunny Stockholm >> >> >> Pär Lannerö >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Mobil: 073-944 20 43 >> >> METAMATRIX // INTERFOLIO >> Sveavägen 31, 3 tr, 111 34 Stockholm >> Tel: 08-50 65 33 43 >> http://www.metamatrix.se >> >> KTH // NEPOMUK >> Lindstedtsvägen 3, 6 tr, 100 44 Stockholm >> Tel: 08-790 66 98 >> http://www.csc.kth.se >> http://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> swikig mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/mailman/listinfo/swikig >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > swikig mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/mailman/listinfo/swikig > > -- Sebastian | Dr. Sebastian Schaffert [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Salzburg Research Forschungsgesellschaft http://www.salzburgresearch.at | Knowledge Based Information Systems +43 662 2288 423 | Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II | A-5020 Salzburg PGP Key fingerprint = 13 1D 2E 4F 20 3E C9 1F 4C 57 52 87 8A 80 48 4D F5 E9 97 EC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-user mailing list Semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user
