Hi CariAnn,
I would say that all of those parameters are important, however you need the 
lactic acid to complete the picture of the patient. You want to see a trending 
down of your lactic acid. You want to know that on a cellular level the tissue 
is not still being deprived. One important thing I have learned in working with 
the SSC in our Med/Surg collaborative is be on the lookout for cryptic shock. 
This is the where the B/P looks normal but the lactate is elevated. It's only a 
matter of time before the pt's B/P is no longer "normal". You are basically 
allowing the cells to be deprived during this time. I also watched a great 
U-Tube video by Dr Dellinger and Dr Shaughnessy on lactic acid. "Lactate 
Measures: When, Why, and How Much".
I hope this helps.
Amy

Amy L. Sprague MSN, RN, ACNS-BC, CCRN
    Clinical Nurse Specialist~Critical Care
Franciscan St. Francis Health
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Indianapolis, IN 46237
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From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of CARIANN M DAHLQUIST
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] lactic acid

Hello,
Inquiring how other facilities are doing with physicians obtaining the second 
lactic acid within 6 hours if initial was > 2mmol/L?   I am having some push 
back from our Critical Care that feel as though this leads to additional labs 
being drawn that they do not feel are needed as they are treating the patient 
based on MAP, CVP, blood pressure, etc...
They do have several good points such as a patient that has liver failure and 
has a baseline lactic of 2.05, why continue to drawn more labs?
Any ideas or processes would be appreciated.
Thanks.
CariAnn

CariAnn Dahlquist RN
Quality Management
Altru Health System | Grand Forks, ND
701.780.5339 phone | 701.780.1942 fax | 
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