Yes having lot of fallouts because of the initial hypotension and less fluids 
issue. Physicians don't want to give this amount initially especially with LA<2 
and only one systolic <90.
CMS needs to look into this.

From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Schrecengost, Lisa M.
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] initial hypotension

Hello,
I am in search of assistance.   Can somebody explain why 30ml/kg of crystalloid 
fluids are to be given for an initial hypotension.....even if in severe sepsis 
and not in septic shock.   I have many doctors questioning this....They say 
these fluids of 30ml/kg are only to be given if in septic shock.  When we do 
our chart abstractions and answer the question "yes" for initial hypotension, 
it asks if fluids of 30ml/kg were given.  If we say these fluids were not given 
at 30ml/kg, then it falls out.   I have even seen it happen with the lactate <2.

Anybody else having same problems?

Thanks,

Lisa  :)




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