Embeding james in databases is not as silly as you seem to think, Dan
Debruner proposed embeding james in derby a couple of years ago.
Admins want to run the products they know, and as little else as
possible.

On 2/6/08, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bernd Fondermann wrote:
>
> > >   - The Web container is the wrong container
> > One has to get used to it. ;-)
>
> Oh, please, I spend more time in the web container than you do awake.  :-p
>
> Still doesn't make the web container the right place to embed a fairly heavy
> mail server, as opposed to providing a connection from things running in the
> Web container to a mail server running elsewhere.
>
> > >   - We should be doing OSGi, not Spring
> > +0 for starting a pure OSGi deployment. This is such a massive task, I
> > probably have no time to take a major role there. But I will try to
> > help where I can.
>
> Robert's idea of talking with the Felix folks in April makes sense.
>
> > >   - None of this has anything to do with improving JAMES for mainstream
> use
> > We will see. Tomcat and Jetty are in mainstream use.
>
> Yes, for Web apps.  Hey, why not embed JAMES inside of Oracle and DB2, too?
> They're in mainstream use.
>
> > As I reported recently, the phoenix-deployment is currently broken caused
> > by JMS configuration issues.
>
> Well, it would be nice if whomever broke it, fixed it.
>
>       --- Noel
>
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