Demetrios Kyriakis wrote:
> 
>>> Just out of curiosity: is JAMES server dead?
>>
>> not really
>>
>> the 2.x code base is now mature with active development continuing on
>> the more advanced 3.0 codebase (eg
>> http://www.ohloh.net/p/apache-james/analyses/latest)
> I see lots of "refactorings", but not sure about actual functionality
> for the user
> itself in the *last year*. If I recall right, one year ago the most
> important functionalities( simple virtual hosting, and add hosts without
> restart) were already there.
> 
>>> - 2 years since the latest minor release of the server
>>> - no visible intention what-so-ever to do a new release (from the
>>> community
>>> perspective - in fact when new users ask about it, they're replied to
>>> do it
>>> by themselves)
>>
>> if the community wants a release of the server code base (whether 2.x
>> or 3.x) then people need to step up and start contributing towards
>> that goal
> Just my point :) : "When users ask about a release, they're replied to do
> do it by themselves" :) .
> 
> So let me get this straight: you are basically 12 gurus (or at least
> very advanced - expert developers):
> http://james.apache.org/weare.html
> And during/after 2 years, you need the "help" of simple *users* just to
> get out a release?
> Wow, just wow. If that's not an abandoned project, I don't know what it
> is :(.

It's a matter of contribution. For example, I don't have much time to
contribute to the project ATM. Some of the others also don't have time
left to do so. So the 12 people are down to 2-3.

This is an open community project. Apache is a do-acracy.

Releasing is much more than writing code. It's also about building,
testing, bug fixing and documenting.

If you want something to happen, do it. At least, that's how I started
out here a while ago. ;-)

  Bernd

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