Hi there. I set up one server on windows 10 just my own home pc, also try
on windows server 2022, gentoo linux, ubuntu linux, work completely fine
even on windows, to start on windows startup u need use scheduler with
other user to make it start even if u dont login to system. Also if your
mails dont go to gmail or any other mail service then something from this
list:
SFP
DMARC
DKIM
Certificate
PTR record
IP in spamlist

Not setup correctly. Because when i done configuring everything going fast
to any mail services and never get to Spam.

I found only 4 really good options for setup your free self hosted mail
server:
Stalwart
Carbonio/Zimbra
Citadel
Apache James

Any other options or not free with limits or just another
dovecot/sendmail/heraka solution

Stalwart about 3 years old and authors says its not exactly production
solution cuz they change many things when it comes to 1.0 version (0.15 now)
Carbonio Zimbra oh god that not exactly mail server more like collaboration
suite and its too complex and even that its just dovecot inside etc...
Citadel pretty solid... But developing for now rly slow and if u see webui
u sure sont like it... Its good but functional a little outdated.
James have all u need mostly crop address book which dont about mail server
exactly but citadel, carbonio and stalwart have this function...
James have everything most ppl need in modern mail server.
James lightning fast - mail from gmail comes in about 2+- seconds.
But what i rly like in james - it have API, with that u can make and
develop on top of it anything u need.
Yes cons here - no webui, no WebMail.
But from all in one mail server solutions that most matured, stable and
powerhouse thing u can find in open source world and even mostly in not
free and open too. Microsoft exchange too complex and without active
directory not functional and EOL in this year :)
So yes james rly good, w8ing for 3.9, have now 3.8.2 and happy.
Sir Benoit i want 3.9 >_<

пт, 14 мар. 2025 г., 06:39 <guy.tremb...@welnx.com>:

> Hi Jamers,
>
>
>
> I have setup my own Apache www server under Windows 11 serving my small
> business web pages. Then at that moment I also made the decision to setup
> my
> own email server. I thought to myself: Ah this is going to be EASY. right?
>
>
>
> Searching for it I realized there weren't that many options and the options
> seemed awkward and underwhelming. I opted for James that looked the most
> serious and apt for my needs. It was tough to setup, but it worked.
>
>
>
> The email was tough to get through at first but setting up DKIM and the
> certificates were instrumental. So I thought: well this works fine but
> somethings amiss.
>
>
>
> I start James inside a batch file in a command prompt windows within a
> Windows 11 session which starts at startup. So, it's a bit 'shaky' I'd say.
> (Windows less than ideal for that purpose) (issue #1)
>
>
>
> Then Gmail won't accept the IMAP from James it seems and email clients are
> finnicky with it (why?).
>
>
>
> I do use Outlook on my phone, but I don't receive notification from the
> emails sent to my James server on my phone (actually, sometimes I do, but
> not always !!)  (issue #3).
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>
> Then okay well this works after all, but what is my next move, and what
> going on? Stay with James or what? If I stay with James, what should I do
> to
> make it rugged and reliable 100%? What will I do when I hire employees?
>
>
>
> Needs to be stable and rugged.
>
>
>
> THEN I read THIS on Reddit:
>
>
>
> "As some one who has done self-hosted email for personal and small biz, its
> basically all cons... Its seems like a great idea, having unlimited free
> email addresses for all your domains. Its not *that* hard to set up as
> well.
> The issue is the big email providers are basically set up like the email
> mafia. Mail to gmail and outlook go spam. You think you have solved the
> issue, then a new recipient informs you mail in going to spam now. You
> spend
> hours to days trying to figure out why, and how to fix it. Now rinse are
> repeated every few months. You also have to figure out if the IP (range)
> you
> can use is already blacklisted. Most VPS and consumer/small biz ISP are.
> It's a massive pain the ass and not worth it unless you need 100's of
> emails
> address or require that level of security. 1/10, would not recommend it.
> Pony up the few bucks to gmail to get a reliable email and great
> WebClient."
> --
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/107iodp/self_hosted_email_serve
> r/
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/107iodp/self_hosted_email_server/>
>
>
>
> That explains it all. James is not a temporary solution, but one of the
> best
> solutions to the ridiculous problem of email access that's not "Big
> Corporate".
>
>
>
> So, my questions (any thoughts welcomed though):
>
>
>
> *       If I want to enable James in a manner that is as stable and robust
> as can be (not in a silly command prompt window at startup) and robust
> (will
> receive outlook notifications and never in spam box, etc.), what is the
> best
> approach to implement?
>
> *       Switch to Linux? If so which Linux?
> *
> *       What are my options really for stable, sustainable email?
> *
> *       Do you get emails sent to spam from your James
>
> *       I actually have not seen this issue since setting up DKIM and
> certificates, but who knows..
> *
>
> *       Alternatively, should I pay for an email service, if so which one?
>
> *
>
>
>
> Kind regards, Cordialement,
>
> Guy
>
>
>
>

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