> I've gotta disagree with the comment below.
>
> In the web application field, dynamic sites are done by a team. Part of
> the team focuses solely on view (look and feel). These people aren't
> programmers. Part of the team focuses on back end services (model). These
> people are programmers.
>
> Most dynamic sites done by programmers are butt ugly.
> Most dynamic sites done by Graphic artists are butt ugly under the covers
> (security, scalability, performance).

That is why we use the Dash model to do some things at Clear Ink. Designers
come in and give us mockups (valid html) for the site based on a functional
specification document that has been reviewed by both the engineers and the
designers. Once the engineers have the design of the site in hand, they then
code up the html using ECS and make the web application functional following
the Dash model. This has worked extremely well for us for almost 2 years
now. It is a totally different way of doing things than other shops and only
really works in the model of creating sites that are web applications (such
as e-commerce sites and wizard type applications). IMHO, for less
sophisticated (ie: header/footer type dynamic sites where that is the only
portion that is really dynamic) a template system such as
freemarker/webmacro/jsp/gsp/etc works really well. Of course they can be
used for web applications, but to me that is a more difficult way to create,
maintain and debug the application.

our sites are designed by designers and engineered by engineers. seems to
make sense to me. i don't understand why companies, who have the resources
to devote to the project, always want to try to combine the two. that is the
market that JSP is trying to cover and it does not make sense to me that
that market exists in the first place.

coupled with a code management system like CVS, Dash fully allows a team of
programmers to work on the site all at the same time and still provide a
high level of security and engineering consistency for the entire site.

<http://www.working-dogs.com/dash/>

-jon

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