On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Paul Philion wrote:
> Andy Bailey wrote:
> > Just because JSP has some of its roots in ASP does not mean that
> > JSP is a bad thing. It means the ASP designers can leverage their
> > familiarity with the structure of ASP files over to JSP. JSP 1.0
> > certainly is a big improvement on ASP and ASP has, at its heart, a
> > terribly flawed language which JSP's do not.
> >
> > JSP was an attempt to provide the power of servlets to web
> > developers in an already familiar format. Eminently sensible as it
> > means no one who is familiar with ASP and Java need learn
> > something new.
>
> I should have ordered my points differently: This point becomes more
> powerful (for me at least) after making the point that the basic ASP
> principle -- embedding code in an HTML page -- makes (IMHO) for a
> poor architecture. In fact, I think it encourages it. Assuming that
> this is a valid opinion (obviously I do) it follows that I think
> that people at Sun made a *marketing* decision to push JSP. Yes, JSP
> if far superior to ASP; but it still allows the mangling of HTML
> with code.
I think you can make a pretty good argument that marketing has a lot
to do with JSP's existence and position. And that JSP has some
problems.
However, marketing considerations are real, and as much as we as
developers would like to ignore that, we can't. I think most people
here would like to see servlets (and Java et al) as a technology
continue to grow, and being able to point to something like JSP as a
(better) alternative to ASP can help achieve that.
You can always just not use JSP and go with the better options.
Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
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