Take a look at IBM Visual Age for Java. I tried JBuilder and found the IBM
product *much* better. And so did some other people at work. I know some
people who also preferred Visual Cafe 4 (I have not tried it) over JBuilder.

Visual Age's advantages:

1) Has own repository, with versioning.

2) Advanced IDE.

3) Fast.

4) Cheap. (About $85 for professional version, or even better, subscribe to
VADD and get a free copy for abou $110).

Disadvantages:

1) No servlet runner. But I have imported Sun's classes into my project,
including HttpServer. By running this class you can debug your servlets
from within Visual Age. It is actually quite easy to do.

2) Steep learning curve. But once you learn it you will never want to go
back to file-based IDEs.

3) No servlet wizard. But who needs it anyway? The Enterprise version has one.

4) I did not like the Search functions. Maybe I did not learn how to use it
well yet.

My view on JBuilder is that it is too big and slow. The Help is so slow
it's useless. You will need 256MB of memory to run JBuilder at an
acceptable speed.

Just my opinion. Please no flames :-)

Fernando

At 04:26 PM 1/6/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I like Borland JBuilder3.
>Just my opinions here:
>
>PROS
>1. I'm still pretty much a Java newbie, but I like it because
>    it is compatible (to a large degree) with 1.2.
>2. It's cheap.
>3. Pretty fast execution within the IDE.
>
>CONS
>1.  It's a HOG!!!  And the "help" system must use up twice the memory that
>the
>     IDE uses!
>2.  Not nearly as "nice" as Microsoft VJ++, but I'm hoping further revisions
>of the
>     product will approach the look and feel of Microsoft tools.
>3.  I'm really going out on a limb here, but I don't think it supports
>breakpoints
>     inside servlets (they're served by the web server.)
>
>
>Keep this thread alive.. I'm always shopping for better tools.
>
>kevin carothers    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>API Technology. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Leonard, Ed
>Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 11:37 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: IDE Reccomendations
>
>
>I would recommend that in your process of selection that you make sure that
>all features are available with all levels of virtual machine.  Symantec
>does'nt seem to provide that aspect.
>
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