If you subscribe to VADD for $110 you get a free copy of Visual Age for
Java 3.0 (besides your subscription).
At 08:24 PM 1/8/00 -0800, you wrote:
>How is $110 equate to being free?
>
>I use JDeveloper a fair bit, it's a derived product of JBuilder.
>
>I like the contextual help, the wizards and the deployment wizard is pretty
>good.
>
>It has a built-in JSP, servlet runner, and EJB, class test environment (it
>builds a minimal GUI that calls your EJB allowing you to test it directly,
>either deployed or hosted in the tool).
>
>It's not free (even if free==110 USD), but for about $200 you can get the
>internet developers kit off of technet.oracle.com, which comes with
>JDeveloper, Oracle8i (Java Server with EJB support), and OAS (Java WebServer
>with EJB support). It's for development only.
>
>Thor HW
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Fernando Saldanha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 4:21 PM
>Subject: Re: IDE Recommendations
>
>
> > Take a look at IBM Visual Age for Java. I tried JBuilder and found the IBM
> > product *much* better. And so did some other people at work. I know some
> > people who also preferred Visual Cafe 4 (I have not tried it) over
>JBuilder.
> >
> > Visual Age's advantages:
> >
> > 1) Has own repository, with versioning.
> >
> > 2) Advanced IDE.
> >
> > 3) Fast.
> >
> > 4) Cheap. (About $85 for professional version, or even better, subscribe
>to
> > VADD and get a free copy for abou $110).
> >
> > Disadvantages:
> >
> > 1) No servlet runner. But I have imported Sun's classes into my project,
> > including HttpServer. By running this class you can debug your servlets
> > from within Visual Age. It is actually quite easy to do.
> >
> > 2) Steep learning curve. But once you learn it you will never want to go
> > back to file-based IDEs.
> >
> > 3) No servlet wizard. But who needs it anyway? The Enterprise version has
>one.
> >
> > 4) I did not like the Search functions. Maybe I did not learn how to use
>it
> > well yet.
> >
> > My view on JBuilder is that it is too big and slow. The Help is so slow
> > it's useless. You will need 256MB of memory to run JBuilder at an
> > acceptable speed.
> >
> > Just my opinion. Please no flames :-)
> >
> > Fernando
> >
> > At 04:26 PM 1/6/00 -0800, you wrote:
> > >I like Borland JBuilder3.
> > >Just my opinions here:
> > >
> > >PROS
> > >1. I'm still pretty much a Java newbie, but I like it because
> > > it is compatible (to a large degree) with 1.2.
> > >2. It's cheap.
> > >3. Pretty fast execution within the IDE.
> > >
> > >CONS
> > >1. It's a HOG!!! And the "help" system must use up twice the memory
>that
> > >the
> > > IDE uses!
> > >2. Not nearly as "nice" as Microsoft VJ++, but I'm hoping further
>revisions
> > >of the
> > > product will approach the look and feel of Microsoft tools.
> > >3. I'm really going out on a limb here, but I don't think it supports
> > >breakpoints
> > > inside servlets (they're served by the web server.)
> > >
> > >
> > >Keep this thread alive.. I'm always shopping for better tools.
> > >
> > >kevin carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: A mailing list for discussion about Sun Microsystem's Java Servlet
> > >API Technology. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Leonard, Ed
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 11:37 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: IDE Reccomendations
> > >
> > >
> > >I would recommend that in your process of selection that you make sure
>that
> > >all features are available with all levels of virtual machine. Symantec
> > >does'nt seem to provide that aspect.
> > >
> >
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