Enough is enough. Anyone here have the priviledges to kick him off before
this degenerates? It's getting ugly... In the meantime, I suggest that
everyone just ignore this person.
Howard Taylor wrote:
>
> Thanks for making good use of the band width you mentioned Einstein and
> thanks for addressing the issues I raised big mouth.
>
> Graham Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 10/13/2000 09:11:29 AM
>
> Please respond to "A mailing list for discussion about Sun Microsystem's
> Java Servlet API Technology."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> cc:
>
> Subject: Re: Stability of Java
>
> Well I wouldn't want to force any more of that sandwich down your
> knowledgeable throat. Maybe you should sign-off this list and leave some
> bandwidth to us poor remaining unenlightened folks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Howard Taylor
> Sent: 13 October 2000 14:26
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Stability of Java
>
> I have been on this little "chat" board for less than 24 hours and I have
> seen enough to confirm to me that Java is a bad tool. I have never in my
> life seen a development tool that is so misunderstood. No one knows how to
> use. It is about as crude as COBOL. I have never seen anything like it.
> The lack of professional documentation should send a strong message to the
> programming community. Error messages come up and there is no way in this
> world to find out what they mean. Just look at some of the questions that
> come across these emails. I have yet to see someone answer a question
> posted. That is because nobody can say with any degree of confidence that
> their solution will work from machine to machine. Isn't Java supposed to
> be OS independent? Why does code work on one machine and not another? Why
> are there so many different development tools that are supposed to do the
> same thing? Why is it that all of these tools install and leave a
> directory structure behind that a person using a different tool can't
> recognize? Java is just a huge shit sandwich that SUN is trying to ram
> down our throats in their little battle with Microsoft.
>
> We have very talented programmers on staff where I work and we cannot get
> any consistency out of Java. PEOPLE, HEAR THIS ... no one will ever have
> success making a car that can accept parts from other cars ... PERIOD.
> There is no way that Java will ever work. There are too many variables
> involved from machine to machine to allow Java to run consistently. Let's
> take a web site that runs applets. You can bet your ass that a good number
> of people who hit the site will have an error when that applet tries to
> run. It happens every day when I get on. As soon as that happens to me I
> am out of there and you just lost my interest/BUSINESS.
>
> Even if you think you can make it work was it worth all the time it took?
> Hardly. I have been trying to get a very simple servlet to run that I got
> out of the Deitel & Deitel Java How To book. D&D swears it runs on their
> machines. Why won't it run here. I have sent numerous emails to them and
> they have been trying to figure out what is wrong but can't. These guys
> are supposed to know what they are doing. A perfect example of the
> instability of Java.
>
> How many millions of man-hours are going to be wasted on Java before IS
> managers realize it doesn't work? We need to get back to the business of
> client server programming and trash this cancer of a tool.
>
> I CHALLENGE SUN TO DEFEND THIS PRODUCT. IT DOES NOT WORK AS BRAGGED.
>
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