Working with designers with xml/xsl is a similar story as with
jsp: a programmer really has to do the work.  What we have done
here is that a designer came up with photoshop drawings / static
html for about 4 screens.  We took that and produced style sheets
so that our 130+ screens all come out to look the same.

That is better than jsp.  What usually happens there is that the
html done by a designer has to refined by a programmer so that it
is more suitable for dynamically generated data /
internationalization.  Then you end up using cut and paste to
copy thousands of lines of html into jsp's.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nic Ferrier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Servlet versus JSP


>>> Mark Galbreath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 18-Apr-01 5:24:49 PM >>>

>Three words: Model View Controller.  If you have to
>ask, you probably should be using JSPs.


I laugh in the face of MVC.

I find a much better strategy is to use filters to create a suitable
environment for a JSP page. This is a processing model which works
quite well, it's similar to MVC but allows you to follow execution
paths more easily.

The new filter support in API 2.3 make writing apps in this way a
*lot* easier than it used to be.


I am fascinated by the XML/XSL way of doing things...

My biggest problem with XML generally is that it's not the sort of
tool that designers can use... which is fine as long as you're using
it for back end transactions but not so good if you're using it in
your presentation system.

Has anyone had any experience with working with designers in such an
XML/XSL development environment?



Nic Ferrier

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