Mark, 
        nice to see you are still on this list. I have followed some of
your comments and advice for many years. I read the book by Rod Johnson
"J2EE Development without EJB" and he has a differing opinion of JSF
(Chapter 13 p.408 of his book). I am completely agnostic in my opinion.
I am using Spring for my MVC framework and it seems like it is well
thought out and easy to use, although it needs more examples and
documentation. I know nothing about JSF, but there seems to be a lot of
hype about it. I'm not one to jump on the "next-best-thing" (that’s why
I'm still on this list :-) Good luck with JSF. I'm sure that it will be
successful with you at the helm.

Tom K.



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Spring is dead, too.  JSF is the future.

Mark

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If your interested in Struts then maybe you should be checking out
Spring (http://www.springframework.org/). Struts is passé (Please, no
emails to this comment, it's my opinion). Spring is "much" easier and
powerful.  See what other powerful frameworks that support the Spring
framework are doing like ValueList
(http://nighthawkds.homedns.org:8081/valuelist/) Like many Struts
developers are doing now is using Spring with the Struts framework. If
you use hibernate (http://www.hibernate.org/) for Object relational
mapping (and if you don't) Spring makes it easy.

Tom K.


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Team,

I want to join in struts mailing list. I sent mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with "subscribe" as subject , but I don't
get
any response.

What is the best site for struts mailing list? How to subscribed to it?
How
to send a request to the group.

Thank you for your help.

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