=?iso-8859-1?Q?Endre_St=F8lsvik?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Chris Ward wrote:
>
> | > -Consider- using J2EE in -seriously- heavy-distributed
> | > environments. Do not use even think about considering it to
> | > show a "request being processed" page!!!!!
> |
> |         Er... this has all gone a bit pear-shaped.
>
> As a non-native English speaker, what would the pear-shape refer to?
> I don't get that idiomatic expression at all...!

It's all gone pear shaped and the wheel's have fallen off...

Alex "The Horse" Pomperini has been knicked for doing over the drums
on his manor and putting the frighteners on the toms. His brief says
he'll have to cough and go down for a stretch.

....


I believe that "pear shaped" (a description of something that has gone
bad) refers to the English vernacular description of a woman's body
shape. Women are said (mostly by themselves) to be "pear shaped" as
opposed to "hour glass shaped" which is the idiomatic ideal.

Clearly, it is "better" to not be "pear shaped". So if something goes
"pear shaped" it has deteriorated in some way.

The hacker alternative would be FUUBAR or FOO BAR as it is so often
sanitized to.


> |
> |         I made the mistake of trying to round it off with a
> |         "funny" quip about having to use full-blown J2EE just
> |         to get a busy page.
>
> I did get that, actually. The "hahaha!"-reply to your sole sentence was my
> way of trying to convey that..! The "what ARE you saying?"-part of my mail
> was directed to Zerbe's "Yup, J2EE's what you want, go on with the MBDs",
> which I actually considered to be an actual serious suggestion. I might
> have gotten that wrong, though..

I *think* he was joking... but if you read the whole thread you'll get
a sense of the battle raging in the Java community right now between
those who want to earn money by making customers pay for J2EE and
those that want to earn money by making their customers more
efficient.

/8->


--
Nic Ferrier
http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk

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