Jason Hunter wrote:
David Orriss Jr wrote:
Hey,
Jason Hunter wrote the 2nd edition 4 years ago. Since then we have
the 2.4
spec and I'm sure a bunch of other goodies. Anyone know why Jason
hasn't
done a 3rd Ed yet?
Hi David,
Let me see if I can answer your question. (If I can't, who can, eh?)
It's something I've given thought to. As of yet I haven't been
convinced that it's a project I should undertake. It's a ton of work.
The 2nd Edition, for example, took nine months of effort.
The way I see a 3rd Edition, I'd have two options...
I could do a somewhat minor update to bring the book up to the latest
spec levels (what will be Servlets 2.5 shortly), and not expand the
focus very much, actually shrink the book probably. That would
definitely help people feel more comfortable buying the book than an
edition last published in 2001, and it wouldn't require huge amounts of
effort.
Or I could do a major update that talked at some length about the
technologies built on servlets and where servlets fit into the big
picture these days. Show servlets as controllers, etc. The focus of
Sun and open source groups writing server-side Java has moved higher up
the stack than servlets. So should the book move up the stack too?
This approach would take a lot of time, and honestly I'd rather be
writing about Ruby on Rails than JSF. :)
From a time management and enjoyment of life perspective, Approach One
looks much more appealing. But, David, are you wanting that or an
Approach Two kind of book?
-jh-
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Hey!
I have been with servlets since day one. You may recognize me for I
responded
many times years ago when servlets were been formulated and thereafter
answering
questions as a mentor on this list. For the most part, servlets have
evolved into some
thing good. I don't like the "higher up the stack" based on servlets,
i.e. STRUTS and
I probably won't like JSF. I have written a 'better' STRUTS. It is
much faster and
much easier to add capabilities. My apologies go McClaughlin, et al.
For one, I just
don't think XML is a good way to communicate with the Controller in the
MVC model.
If I have some time, maybe when I retire, I will write something on how
to write a good
Controller. Most projects 'out here' don't need the enormous overhead
of STRUTS to
do an MVC. How many files do you have to create? Five??? I really
don't know
because I just don't use and don't need STRUTS. BTW guys, don't put MVC
experience
on your resumes just because you know how to use STRUTS. I see that on so
many resumes. Only the writers of STRUTS can claim MVC.
Jason, that being said, I don't care which Approach you take. Just
write something so we can
have some fun and you can make another "million dollars" (quote by Dr.
Evil). :>) I'll buy
your book.
Sans adieu,
Danny Rubis
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