Hello

Really sorry I have not been paying much attention to this lately but I
guess that is just another sign that not much is going on with SFC at
the moment.

+1

BR
Jaime.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Vorburger <[email protected]>
To: Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]>
Cc: Luis Gomez <[email protected]>, Anil Vishnoi <[email protected]>
, Thanh ha <[email protected]>, Robert Varga <[email protected]>, Release <rele
[email protected]>, SFC <[email protected]>, tsc
<[email protected]>, Daniel De La Rosa <ddelarosa@luminanetwor
ks.com>
Subject: Re: [sfc-dev] [OpenDaylight TSC] [release] TSC Vote for moving
SFC to a self managed project
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:34:46 +0200

On Mon, 16 Sep 2019, 18:33 Abhijit Kumbhare, <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Yes - that (removing in SR1) sounds a good idea to me.

+1

> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:22 AM Luis Gomez <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If it is too late to remove SFC now I would advocate to remove it
> > in Sodium SR1 (we did this in the past with other projects that
> > suddenly became abandoned). The only way I can see SFC during
> > Sodium support cycle is if someone steps up to do the basic project
> > maintenance, but I do not think this is going to happen.
> > 
> > BR/Luis
> > 
> > > On Sep 16, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Abhijit Kumbhare <abhijitkoss@gmail.
> > > com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your thoughts Thanh and Anil - very good points. I
> > > agree with Thanh that we do not want to delay the release
> > > further. So the best course of action as Thanh suggested seems to
> > > be to release note that SFC test failure for Sodium and say that
> > > SFC is marked for removal as a managed project in Magnesium. We
> > > may want to add that SFC may not have any further fixes during
> > > the Sodium SRs as they are transitioning to a self managed
> > > project for Magnesium.
> > > 
> > > Let us conclude this vote as not passed. I will respond on Luis'
> > > thread about overall release status.
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 7:09 AM Anil Vishnoi <[email protected]
> > > om> wrote:
> > > > I believe it's not a matter of few test failing. It's pretty
> > > > much dead code in my opinion and i have a doubt that even it's
> > > > basic usecase is working anymore.
> > > > Now do we want to keep shipping this dead code and support it
> > > > for next 1 year (6 month stable support, 6 month security
> > > > support)? I am not sure if there is anyone to support this code
> > > > even in self-managed mode. If removing this code from managed
> > > > project delays the relase by a week (nothing new in ODL
> > > > history, we did it many times, many reasons ), in my person
> > > > opinion, we should just do it.
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 6:42 AM Thanh ha <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I agree here. It seems wrong to me to remove it from Sodium
> > > > > this late into the release cycle unless we really want to
> > > > > delay the release some more. In the initial email thread this
> > > > > list Stephen's patch https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/c/ne
> > > > > tvirt/+/84369 will remove it from netvirt but this would
> > > > > require that to be merged and then we need to respin
> > > > > everything.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Could we maybe release note the SFC test failure for Sodium
> > > > > and mention that it is marked for removal as a
> > > > > managed project in Magnesium?
> > > > > 
> > > > > That would at least flag to the users that SFC has known
> > > > > issues and we can likely proceed with the release.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Thanh
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 07:40, Abhijit Kumbhare <abhijitkoss@g
> > > > > mail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks for the feedback Robert and Daniel. We do need to
> > > > > > disable SFC from NetVirt, right? Isn't there an engineering
> > > > > > effort required for that? Or is it OK to ship with those
> > > > > > tests failing?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 10:41 PM Daniel De La Rosa <ddelaro
> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 10:28 PM Robert Varga <[email protected]
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 16/09/2019 06:34, Abhijit Kumbhare wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello TSC,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > There was a discussion in the TSC meeting to move SFC
> > > > > > > > project to be a
> > > > > > > > > self managed project for Sodium as SFC members have
> > > > > > > > mostly moved on and
> > > > > > > > > have also not attended any TSC meetings. Subsequently
> > > > > > > > we also sent an
> > > > > > > > > email to the SFC project titled "SFC and Sodium".
> > > > > > > > Since there was no
> > > > > > > > > response, it is time for the TSC to vote on whether
> > > > > > > > SFC should be
> > > > > > > > > removed from the Sodium release.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > *Hence please vote either -1, 0 or +1 for the
> > > > > > > > following question:*
> > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > *Shall SFC be removed from Sodium as a managed
> > > > > > > > project and be considered
> > > > > > > > > as a self managed project? Note - this will
> > > > > > > > likely need us to remove it
> > > > > > > > > from the Sodium distribution.*
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -1.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The release is ready, this would require a re-spin and
> > > > > > > > re-signoff for a
> > > > > > > > release that is already 11 days late.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > What is the (very strong) reason to even be considering
> > > > > > > > this?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I don't think there is one and I thought that we talked
> > > > > > > about doing this ( and other) projects to self managed
> > > > > > > for magnesium in the TSC meeting. I think is better to
> > > > > > > keep Sodium release date on time but start working on
> > > > > > > this ASAP for Magnesium
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > my two pesos
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > FTR: I strongly believe this pruning should have
> > > > > > > > happened at the Final
> > > > > > > > Checkpoint at the latest -- i.e. a month ago.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > Robert
> > > > > > > > 
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