[shavian] Tengwar and Shavian

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If you want to understand the problem that people have with Shavian, take a look at Tengwar....an equally opaque phonemic representation of English. The problem is that there is little connection between a string of tengwar symbols and a string of Roman symbols.  One has to learn the symbol-sound correpondences and then identify the pronunciation with ones ear vocabulary.    Wià an orthografi sÃch az Webster-Latin1 or WL1, wun kan ÃzÃÃli rekognÃz à wÃrd.   --Steve Introduction | Tengwar This table shows how to use the Tengwar to represent consonants. I also show the name of each letter.   I II III IV 1 t as in time tinco p as in pass parma ch as in chill calma k as in can quesse 2 d as in do ando b as in bit umbar j as in just anga g as in go ungwe 3 th as in think thuule f as in field formen sh as in sheet harma kh as in loch hwesta 4 dh as in then anto v as in vast ampa zh as in leisure anca (not used) unque 5 n as in not nuumen m as in mind malta ny as in canyon noldo ng as in sing nwalme 6 r as in star oore w as in wild vala y as in yes anna qu as in queen vilya r as in right roomen rd as in hard arda l as in light lambe ld as in told alda s as in silver silme s as in silver silme nuquerna z as in cause aaze z as in cause aaze nuquerna h as in hill hyarmen   y as in try yanta w as in gown uure "the" "of" "of the"   http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/teng.html In this mode vala and anna are used for W and Y when used as consonants. Uure and yanta are used for W and Y when they appear as part of a vowel sound. war  â  yet  â  gown  â  gay  â  A bar over the tengwa, but under any tehta, should be used for a preceeding N or M that is part of the same syllable. bond  â camp  â tent  â gamble  â song  â somnambulant  â Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shavian/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.