Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Did you ever notice any problems with less? If not, you
> are probably the wrong person for such a discussion.


I've noticed lots of problems with less.

Some of them are bugs, some are RFEs and some are
simply that the design center for less is different than
what I would have chosen.

Nevertheless, I still use less, even though I set
PAGER=more.

> Do you know about problems wth more?

Certainly.

I've noticed lots of problems with more.

Some of them are bugs, some are RFEs and some are
simply that the design center for more is different than
what I would have chosen.

Nevertheless, I still use PAGER=more, even though it
doesn't meet all of my needs/desires. For those times
I explicitly invoke less, tee, grep and other filters.

> Do you know exactcy what's probably missing in more?

Does it matter?  Especially since I doubt I'm going to
spend the effort to change it?  While less and more live
in the same problem-space, each has chosen to address the
PAGER problem in different ways.  Neither is perfect,
because much of this space is usability and preference,
and that, in turn, is tightly tied to the individual in
question: what problems she is encountering and how she
prefers to work.

If /you/ feel strongly about more(1), then, by all means,
please step up and work on it.  Fix its bugs and add new
features. Make it a better utility.

Roland seems to feel just as strongly about less(1).  In
the same way, /he/ seems to be stepping up to fix its bugs
and add new features so that it becomes a better utility.

OpenSolaris as a whole would be improved if it had both
a new more /and/ a new less.  Users like myself would see
a win-win situation.

And, if one of you didn't manage to get traction, but the
other did, OpenSolaris would still benefit.  There is no
downside to letting others improve the parts of the
system that they wish to work on.

The only downside I see is if we all waste time talking
these ideas to death without anyone actually implementing
anything...

   -John

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