Noirin,
Thank you, very much appreciated, should we have indicated interest on the wiki or somewhere ? Its quite probable that Dan only thought that 5 were coming and knew all of them anyway ?
Ian



On 2 Apr 2008, at 12:16, Nóirín Shirley wrote:
I'm delighted to see so many people interested in a new project, and
hope you guys have a really successful BOF! I've switched it back to
20:30 on Wednesday.

Dan, in future, please, please don't schedule your BOF without first
checking with the planners team for the event
([EMAIL PROTECTED], or [EMAIL PROTECTED]),
and letting us know you need to stick to the time given, if people are
coming in for just one day. I know you mailed us to say that you'd put
the BOF on the wiki - and flipped the "confirmed" bit - but scheduling
is a whole other ballgame =)

Cassie, thanks for mailing me - I'm the conference lead for the
upcoming conference in Amsterdam, and I really don't want to rain on
anyone's parade. That said, there's no way I can keep up with all the
lists we have at the ASF! So if there's anything you guys need, please
feel free to get in touch =)

Noirin



On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Cassie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So it looks like this was the change that did it:
http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08? action=diff&rev2=56&rev1=55

and the change was made by Noirin who looks like someone who is setting up the bofs. Perhaps, if we ask Noirin very politely (added her to the thread)
then she can help us get something rescheduled for Wednesday evening?

Noirin - sorry for the problems around this, I think people planned their flights and hotels around the unconfirmed date only because the April 1st switch happened a little to late for reservations. If there is any way we
can get this back to Wed that would be fantastic. Thanks!

- Cassie



On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Ian Boston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Us also,
Booked
hotel rooms,
flights, and
conference subs for 3 people specifically to come to the ShindigBof, would
have loved to attend the whole conference but we cant afford cost or the
time just at the moment.

I havent added it all up, but I know the budgets blown and some of those
coming need to be in other places on Thursday.
;(

Any chance of moving it back ?

Our interest is real, we are sending one of the developers who cant come
to Amsterdam to the London Hackathon as
we want to embed Shindig inside Sakai (http://www.sakaiproject.org)
originally prompted by the OpenSocial announcement at the start of the year, work we have been doing to rewite sakai's portal based interaction
(168)  and commentary such as
http://mfeldstein.com/google-announces-opener-social-software-apis/
http://mfeldstein.com/gadgets-instead-of-portlets/
http://mfeldstein.com/mashing-up-the-lms-the-google-way/

Just trying to say we don't want to sit at the back and observe (we also
dont want to get in the way) :)



Ian






On 2 Apr 2008, at 10:42, Reinoud Elhorst wrote:

I'm a little startled here. I'm supposed to go there (sorry, didn't
check
the list for a while), and yesterday ordered 3 tickets to apachecon 2008
for
the Wednesday, specifically for Shindig. Now today I see the schedule
has
changed and Shindig has moved to Thursday 21:30-22:30.

Can anyone confirm that it has moved? I'm not sure my employer will like
it
if I need to order another 1000 euros of tickets.....


On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Dan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Santiago Gala
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:



El vie, 28-03-2008 a las 18:46 -0700, Dan Peterson escribió:

Hey Shindig folks,

ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on the


list,


we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.

I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time of

Wednesday,

April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )

I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I are

planning

to be there.

Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to meet
in

person.




Not me. I still *might* go to Amsterdam for the Apachecon-us-2008
planning meeting Saturday after ApacheCON, but it looks very
unlikely as
of now.


In terms of an abstract for

http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I

am proposing we list:

Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is becoming
the
reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets
infrastructure.


This


project aims to make it easy for a new social website to become a
"container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid
progress.

Come

learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find out
how

to

get involved. Q&A welcome.

I'd like to send in an abstract to planners-2008- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on

Monday

or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.

I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:

Dan Peterson
-- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
-- Brief project history

John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
-- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process

Cassie Doll
-- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
-- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
-- Demo

Chris Chabot
-- Walk through the PHP server design

Q&A

Any suggestions or improvements?



Typically BOFs are very dynamic, a short introduction and let people
unknown to the -dev list "delurk" themselves and talk about what
they
are doing and what they are interested into/ willing to help.

Your plan is all right provided that the introductions are really
short,
in the 5 minutes or so. Technical stuff has never really fitted into
any
BOF I've been into, unless it is about discussing design decisions,
etc.



Thanks for the suggestions.

Sounds like the description above is fine. I'll mail the planners
tomorrow.

-Dan








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