Noirin, noted for the future! Very much appreciate the responsiveness here
in turning the date back.

My apologies on the misstep -- the wiki nature of the page made it look like
scheduling was "simply" first come, first serve -- mea culpa. Might I
recommend having the email address and steps to confirm listed on the wiki
page? I read "please do not edit this field yourself!" to mean people who
are attending a given BoF shouldn't do the accepting/scheduling, but it
seemed like the only way for the proposer to get a slot, so I did it.

Again, really grateful for your helping out here!
-Dan

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Nóirín Shirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm delighted to see so many people interested in a new project, and
> hope you guys have a really successful BOF! I've switched it back to
> 20:30 on Wednesday.
>
> Dan, in future, please, please don't schedule your BOF without first
> checking with the planners team for the event
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED], or [EMAIL PROTECTED]),
> and letting us know you need to stick to the time given, if people are
> coming in for just one day. I know you mailed us to say that you'd put
> the BOF on the wiki - and flipped the "confirmed" bit - but scheduling
> is a whole other ballgame =)
>
> Cassie, thanks for mailing me - I'm the conference lead for the
> upcoming conference in Amsterdam, and I really don't want to rain on
> anyone's parade. That said, there's no way I can keep up with all the
> lists we have at the ASF! So if there's anything you guys need, please
> feel free to get in touch =)
>
> Noirin
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Cassie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So it looks like this was the change that did it:
> >
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08?action=diff&rev2=56&rev1=55
> >
> > and the change was made by Noirin who looks like someone who is setting
> up
> > the bofs. Perhaps, if we ask Noirin very politely (added her to the
> thread)
> > then she can help us get something rescheduled for Wednesday evening?
> >
> > Noirin - sorry for the problems around this, I think people planned
> their
> > flights and hotels around the unconfirmed date only because the April
> 1st
> > switch happened a little to late for reservations. If there is any way
> we
> > can get this back to Wed that would be fantastic. Thanks!
> >
> > - Cassie
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Ian Boston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Us also,
> > > Booked
> > > hotel rooms,
> > > flights, and
> > > conference subs for 3 people specifically to come to the ShindigBof,
> would
> > have loved to attend the whole conference but we cant afford cost or the
> > time just at the moment.
> > >
> > > I havent added it all up, but I know the budgets blown and some of
> those
> > coming need to be in other places on Thursday.
> > > ;(
> > >
> > > Any chance of moving it back ?
> > >
> > > Our interest is real, we are sending one of the developers who cant
> come
> > to Amsterdam to the London Hackathon as
> > > we want to embed Shindig inside Sakai (http://www.sakaiproject.org)
> > originally prompted by the OpenSocial  announcement at the start of the
> > year, work we have been doing to rewite sakai's portal based interaction
> > (168)  and commentary such as
> > > http://mfeldstein.com/google-announces-opener-social-software-apis/
> > > http://mfeldstein.com/gadgets-instead-of-portlets/
> > > http://mfeldstein.com/mashing-up-the-lms-the-google-way/
> > >
> > > Just trying to say we don't want to sit at the back and observe (we
> also
> > dont want to get in the way) :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2 Apr 2008, at 10:42, Reinoud Elhorst wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm a little startled here. I'm supposed to go there (sorry, didn't
> > check
> > > > the list for a while), and yesterday ordered 3 tickets to apachecon
> 2008
> > for
> > > > the Wednesday, specifically for Shindig. Now today I see the
> schedule
> > has
> > > > changed and Shindig has moved to Thursday 21:30-22:30.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone confirm that it has moved? I'm not sure my employer will
> like
> > it
> > > > if I need to order another 1000 euros of tickets.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Dan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Santiago Gala
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > El vie, 28-03-2008 a las 18:46 -0700, Dan Peterson escribió:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Shindig folks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on
> the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > list,
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time
> of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Wednesday,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
> > > > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I
> are
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > planning
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to be there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to
> meet
> > in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > person.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not me. I still *might* go to Amsterdam for the
> Apachecon-us-2008
> > > > > > planning meeting Saturday after ApacheCON, but it looks very
> > unlikely as
> > > > > > of now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In terms of an abstract for
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > am proposing we list:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is
> becoming
> > the
> > > > > > > reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets
> > infrastructure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > This
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > project aims to make it easy for a new social website to
> become a
> > > > > > > "container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid
> > progress.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Come
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find
> out
> > how
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > get involved. Q&A welcome.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to send in an abstract to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > on
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Monday
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dan Peterson
> > > > > > > -- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
> > > > > > > -- Brief project history
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
> > > > > > > -- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cassie Doll
> > > > > > > -- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
> > > > > > > -- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
> > > > > > > -- Demo
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chris Chabot
> > > > > > > -- Walk through the PHP server design
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Q&A
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any suggestions or improvements?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Typically BOFs are very dynamic, a short introduction and let
> people
> > > > > > unknown to the -dev list "delurk" themselves and talk about what
> > they
> > > > > > are doing and what they are interested into/ willing to help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your plan is all right provided that the introductions are
> really
> > short,
> > > > > > in the 5 minutes or so. Technical stuff has never really fitted
> into
> > any
> > > > > > BOF I've been into, unless it is about discussing design
> decisions,
> > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the suggestions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like the description above is fine. I'll mail the planners
> > > > > tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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