Thanks for the detailed instructions about building from source!  I
have a new build from the svn source on my machine now.  I will try
the same process on the Tiger machine and perhaps this will resolve
our problems.

Larry

On Dec 28, 2007 9:08 AM, larry talley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am mentoring an 8'th grader on a school project which seems like a
> perfect opportunity for Shoes.  (He has a lot of discretion about the
> project but he has decided to build an online tic-tac-toe game -- see
> http://seafom.org/x/FIAl).
>
> I happen to have a Macbook with OSX Leopard, and the standard OSX
> Shoes download installs fine for me (shoes-0.r327-intel.dmg).  My
> student has OSX Tiger, and when he installs Shoes, it doesn't work
> perfectly.  His Shoes executable will start, it creates a process that
> we can see visually (there is a window on his screen), and we can see
> the process in the process list (ps), but, we can't make the Shoes
> process a "foreground" application.  We can't click on the Shoes
> window, we can't ever see a Shoes menu, etc.  When we tire of trying
> to communicate with the Shoes process we have to kill the process to
> make it go away.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions regarding installing from
> shoes-0.r327-intel.dmg on Tiger?
>
> In an attempt to fix this we tried installing Shoes from source using
> shoes-0.r331.tar.gz, but we haven't been able to build the app on
> either of our Macs.  First we encountered a dependency on giflib,
> which we solved by installing giflib via MacPorts.  But subsequently I
> get another error from make:
>
> ...
> CC shoes/internal.c
> CC shoes/ruby.c
> CC shoes/world.c
> CC -o dist/libshoes.so
> Undefined symbols:
>   "_main", referenced from:
>       start in crt1.10.5.o
> ld: symbol(s) not found
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make: *** [dist/libshoes.so] Error 1
>
> This is on my OSX (Leopard)... I am not sure the Tiger Mac would get
> the identical error, but, I do know that building from source failed.
>
> If anyone has suggestions I would appreciate them.
>
> I know that Shoes is new stuff and I don't expect immediate
> perfection, but, is it likely that we can be successful installing it
> without digging into really technical stuff, or, should we just use
> another GUI toolkit?
>
> Thanks for any help in advance.
>
> Larry
>

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