Re: ShopTalk: ProForce 65 regular and stiff

[Bernie Baymiller]

David,   Besides feel, there's another problem with tipping driver shafts. As soon as you get above the reinforced tip, the wall thickness drops and snapping the shaft off at the hosel is much more likely. I don't know how far you can go on a PF65, but I discovered you can only go about 2" to the weak section of an Aldila Longwood 50/50. As soon as you tip over half an inch on that shaft, you don't have the wall thickness to support hard hits. On the other hand, the 49" Pure Energy is made to tip with a 7" parallel reinforced section. I like tipping this A-flex shaft because it reduces the weight considerably...4 grams in a 2-1/2" tip takes a 59 gram shaft down to 55 grams. Feel is compromised a bit, but not much...in fact, my hard-hitting seniors seem to like the feel of it on a 47" driver.   Bernie Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:26 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: ProForce 65 regular and stiff In a message dated 10/31/2002 12:50:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anybody say how much you would need to tip a ProForce 65 regular to make it freq the same as a stiff? TIA, Hunter L. Hunter Kevil Hi Hunter, You would be better off using a stiff. When I built my demo drivers for the retail store I used Pro Force gold's and Vector Beta Ti heads knowing that both performed well, I've sent a lot of people to the range with tipped 65 R's and un tipped 65 S's as well as un tipped 65 X's and tipped 65 S's As well as the same in 75's and all of the above in varying degrees of tipping. I also have other demo drivers all told ranging from about 215-315 cpm's in about 4 cpm increments with varying tipping basically starting with the softest shafts and the heaviest heads to the stiffest shafts with the lightest heads. The feedback I've gotten overwhelmingly suggests that the less tipping the better the feel and performance. I tried to start a thread on the effect of tipping on feel and performance but the only feed back I got was from Tom W. saying that it's effect would depend on the shaft, which I would have to agree with, but in the case of the UST and I am starting to believe with all shafts that the more parallel tip you can offer while still maintaining the frequency you need the better. David