Jeff,

I have had several Cydonia LCG fairway wood heads (out of several hundred)
which leaked mouse glue through invisible cracks in the hosel weld...if the
club was standing head up in customer's golf bag over a period of time. Not
too difficult to clean up with solvent. To Mars Golf's credit, they replaced
all at no cost to me...didn't even want them back, so I eventually used them
for my own clubs with no noticeable difference in performance. Leaking
finally stopped in 2 out of three heads.

Bernie
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hayes, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Fixing rattle in driver head


> Bob - I thought it was fairly standard practice to have some goop of some
type or another already inside some of the really big Ti heads to dampen the
sound a bit.  I've read some reports about this type of junk ending up in
hosels or oozing out of various orifices in a clubhead but I've never seen
it - in a Golfsmith head or otherwise.  I think if I did, I'd be like you
and send it back as I've heard that mouse glue is very difficult to work
with and clean up.  Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bob boone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Fixing rattle in driver head
>
> Jeff,
> I had that happen with a head and I returned the thing and got a head
> without mouse glue in it!! IMHO, the manufacturer adding mouse glue is
like
> a car dealer adding stop leak to a new cars radiator-unacceptable!!!! I
> always check the hosel of brand new heads and if I detect sticky residue,
it
> goes back!!! I have never had that happen with a G/S head, but if they are
> doing so then the practice is more wide spread than I imagined!! Thanks
for
> the data point!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Hayes, Jeff
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Fixing rattle in driver head
>
>
> Thanks to all who replied to my question.  I got such a variety of
> suggestions that all seemed like feasible options for fixing the rattle.
I
> was particularly intrigued by the idea of removing a PLASTIC plug by
heating
> a coat hanger to red hot and inserting it into the head thus allowing the
> plug to "melt" onto the hangar's tip for extraction.  So, I decided to
> inquire with Golfsmith (it is a GS head) as to what the bore plug was made
> of.  They said that they couldn't be sure since some were metal and some
> "acrylic" but that the inside of this head already contained mouse glue so
I
> should just heat the bottom of the head up to restore some of the
stickiness
> of the glue and then it should hold the bore plug.  I've tried it and will
> see how it works.  I assumed there was something sticky already inside the
> head because the piece would only rattle after a ball was struck - briefly
> until you shook the head a little and it stuck again.  But, it wouldn't
> withstand the force of im!
>  pact without letting loose.  I guess I won't know if this fix works until
I
> get the chance to hit balls the head again.
>
> A couple of side notes...
>
> -I was pleasantly surprised with a very quick response from GS on this
> question (via email).  Bill Totten from their tech dept. was who sent the
> suggestion on heating up the already existing mouse glue.
>
> -Someone asked if it was a Bang head, which it obviously wasn't, BUT...I
had
> some problems with early Bang heads having a very flimsy bore plug that
> either pushed through very easily or melted to the bottom of the shaft on
> extractions.  However, I haven't had that trouble with more recent Bang
> heads.  I actually sent an email to Steve Almo of Bang about the issue.  I
> never got a reply but it does seem to be an issue that they've addressed
at
> Bang.
>
> Later,
> Jeff
>
>
>


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