Heya Bernie,

On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 01:30:47PM -0500, Bernie Baymiller wrote:
> 
> > > "One had a weak axis of 250 cpm (other axis at 258) and
> > > the other a strong axis of 250 cpm (other axis at 242). I built two
> > > identical drivers with both 250cpm axes pointed at 9:00. In one case the
> > > strong axis was at 9:00 the other the weak axis at 9:00. I tried a blind
> > > test and the weak axis at 9:00 was definitely the preferred alignment. "
> >
> > Do you (or hopefully John can pitch in...) know why that aligning the
> > NBP towards the target was preferred?
> 
> To me, it's because that's the way the shaft wants to load during the swing.
> In a spinefinder, you can see the shaft immediately turns so the weakest
> side is on the outside of the bend...and I know it's the weakest side
> because I can read the deflection in thousandths and compare with other
> points on the shaft.  If you set up the shaft aligned with the S axis to
> target, I feel the shaft may try to rotate to the weak axis, at least until
> release...which might cause some ovalling. Don't know. Was just talking with
> another clubmaker who had three shafts Pured by GS. He said all three were
> aligned with the FLO plane near the S axis...so I guess you pick your
> medicine and see if it does the job. I know that when I align on the S-axis,
> I get a few more yards distance and, of course, the shaft reacts a little
> differently. But, you need a pretty consistent swing to feel the difference.
> I like a high A-flex shaft, and if I'm building me a 48" driver with a
> middle A, it sometimes feels a little too flexible at that clublength...so
> if there is any appreciable spine, I might go with FLO alignment on the
> S-axis to stiffen the shaft up slightly.  Seems to work fine, but doesn't
> feel quite as good to me.

Thanks for the input.  Any idea on what type of shot shape aligning the
spine at 12oclock on a Type 1 shafts generally produces?  Just trying to
get an idea of whether my general shot shape is being influenced by the
way my clubs are aligned, but I think it has more to do with swing than
anything else, but if I can get it 1 yard closer to where I'm aiming in
general it will be worth it to pull the heads on all my clubs and
reshaft.

> I read a report on spine alignment impact testing by GS in the
> September/October 1999 issue of GS Clubmaker, authored by John Meng and with
> a lot of reference to Tom Wishon's comments on spining. Interesting
> conclusion in italics, though the following paragraph said there was not
> enough of a sample for empirical proof. Here's the conclusion: "The test
> golfers experienced between 20% and 60% improvement in their percentage of
> on-center hits after spine orientation." Also said, "...players can actually
> hit a ball off-center by as much as 1/4", 1/2" or more. At 1/2" off-center,
> a golfer could lose up to five to seven percent of their potential distance,
> plus the ball will have more sidespin." The article also comments on Weiss's
> reason for placing the S1 at 3 or 9 o'clock...which he thinks is the
> "neutral" position, and which I and others disagree with.

Well, placing S1 at 3 or 9 might be agreeable to you depening on whether
the shaft is a Type 1 or 2, right?  Since if it's a Type 1 placing S1 at
3 would generally put N1 at 9 which is what you recommend.  A Type 2
shaft would end up with N1 at 12 or 6...

-Dave

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