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Tom, That's basicallly the same way I did it when I was fitting clubs.
RK
Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair Equipment
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Date: Sunday, January 19, 2003 2:40:07 PM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: CLUB LIE ANGLE
Well, look;
It really doesn't matter what lie angle is shown on the L&L machine. Whether
its a Scotland, a Mitchell, a Maltby, a GS, or a hammer and a vise. What
matters is how you define the correct lie angle, and how you bend to that
angle - without regard to the actual number.
You can't possibly know what the proper lie angle for a given iron is unless
you have the golfer hit balls with it from a hard surface - a lie board. I
have used, and still use, a piece of "Masonite" hardboard that's about 3/8"
thick, 4 feet square. I have (or at least I used to when I was working
full-time) my customers hit real golf balls from the board. I made certain
the golfer was warmed up first. Then I placed 1/2" masking tape on the sole
of the clubs, marked the center and had them hit at least 5 or 6 shots with
each and every iron in the bag. The adjustments, 1 degree per 1/4" of
off-center marks were and are simple to perform. You can clamp the head in
the L&L machine nearly any way you want, observe what the indicater shows,
and make the bend. Now, I'm not suggesting that you need to be sloppy, and
in fact I set the head in my Scotland very carefully. What I'm implying is
that all you're doing is changing the angle from one point to another to fit
the golfer. A 2� bend is a 2� bend regardless of what the indicator reads.
Certainly you'd be interested in the actual angle, but you don't need to
know it to fit the golfer.
I've done more L&L adjustments than I can count over the years and its a
pretty rare individual who requires a precise 1� angle change from club to
club. Some guys will go from say, a 60� 5 iron to an 63� 6 iron to a 62� 7
iron. As far as I know, there's no golfer in existence who matches any
preconceived measuring "standard." I realize you must start with something,
but once you start, changes are hardly ever linear.
TFlan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom and Donna Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: ShopTalk: CLUB LIE ANGLE
> I know I read somewhere, maybe here in ShopTalk, a standard for club lie
> angle. My question however is how do you know what to change it to?
> When I address the ball with a club, woods and irons, I feel like I have
> to stretch my arms out so the club sets flat on the ground. I much
> prefer to have my arms loose and hanging from the shoulders. When I do
> this I am told that I am not striking the ball correctly, that I am not
> getting full power into the swing contact with the ball. So, can I
> alter that lie without damaging my set of clubs? My irons are TA 845s',
> woods are various different makes ranging from TI 360 driver to 9 wood.
>
> Looking at the clubs at address I can not tell the difference myself,
> after all how much does it have to be off to make a diff?
>
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