To tell the truth, its been a long time since I bought anything from GS.
There are plenty of suppliers closer to me who have pretty much everything I
need. If a customer really wants some GS stuff I'll order it but so far for
about the past 4 years or so, I've bought nothing other than a couple of
shafts that were on sale.

TFlan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry F. Schiestel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:29 PM
Subject: ShopTalk: Golfsmith, Kent Sports, Infiniti


> Hi GregZ, TFlan, and Jents
>
> After 6 years on ProPlan I find out that GS has removed me from their
> discount buying program.  I guess after Oracle and given "our present
> clubmaking supply situation" GS still forces my hand to outsource.
> After Oracle, I'm sure they can't afford to lose many more customers.
>
> Then I find out from Kent Sports that they have signed an exclusive
> distribution covering Ontario, Canada.  Jim Yeh tells me this is good for
> me.
> I compare prices and it just went up 35-40% (another middleman to feed).
> Kent Sports just forced my hand to outsource.
>
> Infiniti USA informs me that I can only buy their product from Infiniti
> Canada.
> I want to buy their new forged wedges.  Infiniti Canada won't stock this
> expensive
> wedge but I'm to special order from them and wait until they can fill my
> order from
> the USA.  Nobody cares that my paying customers have to wait longer for
> their
> new clubs.  Infiniti just forced my hand to ship to an alternate USA
> address.
>
> I find this golf biz real strange.  Why all the supplier barriers that
> reduce customer
> satisfaction?  Do they not want my business / money?  They sure don't act
> like it.
> Then the clubmaking vendors complain that last year was a tough year for
> them.
> The market was depressed.  Well I had record sales!  I took care of all my
> customers.
> Too bad my suppliers can't do the same for me.  This concept is real
foreign
> to them.
> They piss off the customer (clubmaker) and piss away any chance of
increased
> profits.
>
> When a person is happy s/he tells 3 people.  When dissatisfied s/he tells
> 619 people.
>
> Thanks Harry S
> www.Golf54.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Zachmann
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Shoes, Golfsmith and BITE ME
>
>
> Well, if I had my druthers, I'd prefer to believe that they just didn't
like
> me; that's easy to deal with. Having to put up with business as usual as
in
> its present machination is a real pain. That's my bitch for the month.
>
> BTW Tom, if you're still there, I'm in the market for a weird looking pair
> of spikes so give us a report on the Bite shoes. Do they BITE IT, just
BITE
> or are the fit for CONSUMPTION.
>
> TIA
>
> GZach
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of tflan
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 8:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shoes, Golfsmith and BITE ME
>
>
> The reason you had to jump through hoops and go through all the bullshit
is
> because that's what the "system" requires of clerks. In the main, they
don't
> have responsibility to make even the simplest decisions, and for good
> reason. They don't necessarily know what "simple" decisions are. I'm not
> making excuses for GS at all. As a retired businessman I know the system.
My
> experience with Bite ended very quickly and amicably. I emailed and phoned
> and "went up the ladder" immediately. Fortunately, the ladder consisted of
> but 2 rungs. I don't know if you've been to GS Austin. I have. You'd have
to
> see to believe the size of the phone order department. It is really big. I
> was there several years ago, before they enlarged the order dept. offices.
I
> understand they increased the size of the place by some 60% to 80%. Their
> clerks are simply that, clerks, no matter what they call them.
>
> On the other hand, they probably just didn't like you. Hard to believe, I
> know, but hell, sometimes the truth will out ;-)
>
> TFlan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Zachmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] msen. com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:27 PM
> Subject: ShopTalk: Shoes, Golfsmith and BITE ME
>
>
> > The point here is why did I have to jump through all their hoops to get
to
> > what was the only logical thing for any viable business to do in the
first
> > place.> In our present clubmaking supply situation, GS had better start
> doing a lot
> > better job or they'll find themselves replaced. IMO, that'd be too bad.
> >
> > GregZ
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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