Re: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life

Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:05:42 -0700

Sorry about the last 2 sent messages. I hit the wrong button.
 
Now, as to Mr Kevil's message. I'm not a "scurrilous politician." I'm a father and a resident of CA. Maybe you're right, Mr. K. Maybe. But I know for a fact that one of the reasons CA is suffering is as a direct result of the outflow of tech and mfg jobs, and the influx of unregulated commodities from "third world companies." Our farmers here are pulling crops out of the ground or simply letting them rot in the field because quite simply, they can't compete with foreign imports. If you want chapter and verse I'll be happy to share some of the horror stories of which I'm personally aware.
 
I don't know what you do for a living but chances are you aren't a farmer or a CA "techie." It is a fact . . . an undeniable fact, that tech jobs here and across the country are being outsourced to other countries. This may be "good for the economy," but what about the thousands of families that are devastated as a result of this irresponsible action. The "scurrilous politicians" you mention arent' those who are backpedaling from their ill-conceived legislation. The backpedalers are the guys you seem to embrace. Those who are saying that it isn't a big deal that jobs and professions are destroyed.
 
I have spoken with several politicians, both local and federal. I've had conversations with reporters in New Delhi and in London, as well as with reporters from the Wall Street Journal, the San Francisco Chronicle, the Contra Costa Times, the L.A. Times, the Times of India, and a few others. I've been interviewed more than I can stand. Since my son's death I've made a point of researching this subject. Take a look at www.nomoreh1b.com as well as the last website I sent to the list. There you'll find another point of view that's contrary to your citations as regards outsourcing.
 
To be sure, you can find a lot of sites that will agree with your peculiar point of view. But for you or anyone to tell us here that we don't know what we're talking about, or that the loss of American jobs is a not hurting us is as arrogant and insulting a comment as anyone has made here in a long while.
 
So, keep in mind that my last few messages had nothing to do with the trade deficit or with the economy. They were about Americans losing their jobs as a result of legislation passed by our federal government. That's what I care about for obvious reasons.
 
We hear about "superior education" in India. Well, maybe so. But its a fact that our guys here are pretty well educated too. However, its cheaper by 60% to as high as 80% to hire an Indian to do what our guys are doing here. I guess that's a good business judgement but for sure its ruining yet another industry here.
 
You're certainly allowed to have and to voice your opinions, but please don't deign to tell us that we don't know what's what. There are some people here who know a lot more than how to build a golf club.
 
TFlan
 
BTW: I guess I'll get off this. It isn't about golf anyway so I'll give John M a rest, along with all you others.
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Was LDC; is, real life

Hey you guys,
 
I enjoy your posts about golf clubs because you know what you are talking about. That is not the case when you talk about "exporting jobs" and inveigh against free trade. This is the kind of cr*p you hear from scurrilous politicians trying to dupe us into voting for them.
 
World capital is not flowing to countries with low wage rates, but is disproportionately coming here - because of our skilled labor and management, because of people like you. We benefit from free trade - in fact all participants usually benefit. Here is a good though long article on 'comparative advantage,' which explains the notion and why it is counter-intuitive:
 
 
Here's another perspective dealing with manufacturing:
 
 
And another one dealing with the myth that the trade deficit is somehow a bad thing for us:
 
 
My three cents. Get your cannons ready...I've got the garbage-can lid over my backside.
 
L. Hunter Kevil
 

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