RE: ShopTalk: Apache PM30 shafts

[Colin Dick]

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Hi Ron,   Trimming to manufacturer's specs is a bad idea.  They are a crapshoot at best.  Use your Club Scout and forget about the builder trim charts.   If you are worried about them, make up a 5 iron to a small trim flex and try it.  That should give you a feel about how stiff they are.  Keep notes so you know what you did, and where you want to go.   Colin Colin Dick- GCA Accredited Professional Clubmaker SpineMaster Mk.II And Spining Information on http://members.shaw.ca/cgdick/ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Kellison Sent: April 16, 2005 7:18 AM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: ShopTalk: Apache PM30 shafts I recently picked up a full set of new PM30-R shafts for the princely sum of  $30.  I haven't used these shafts before and, before I start trimming them, I want to confirm something I remember from a discussion a few years back.  Someone in this august group of contributors felt strongly that Apache shafts played stiffer that their frequency indicated.  I normally trim to manufacturer's specs (at least as a starting point) but I may want to modify this if the shafts play stiffer than it appears on my Club Scout.  Do I need to take this into account before trimming?   FWIW, I'm still stuck in the dark ages in terms of equipment.  I don't have a launch angle monitor, I haven't moved to MOI matching yet and there isn't a laser to be found anywhere in my shop.  I have a decent Ohaus scale, a Club Scout freq meter, a Maltby swingweight scale and a dedicated cutoff saw.  I still check for spines by twanging and align the spines at 3:00.  I'm definitely "old school" but the clubs don't know the difference.    Regards,   Ron