We did subcontracting for repairs for 2 Pro Golf stores in Alabama for 5 
years.? They did an great amount of business in grips, reshafting, etc. It kept 
us busy full time.??They did a great job selling shafts for better fitment.? 
Example; They sell a Taylormade Driver and recommend a new Speeder shaft to be 
put in it.? I would say? more people take repairs and reshafts and regrips to 
places like them, over any country club or golf course.? We also know of 
another Pro Line Golf shop that does contract work for two Golf Courses, and 
they do very little repairs in comparison.? Our shop does more than they do.? 
Infact when it gets technical, they come to us.?Our experience shows that Golf 
Shops get the most work, ie the ProGolfs, Edwin Watts, etc.
Karen

Hence the question; how much business is left over after the pro shop is 
done with their sales? If there is say, a 50/50 ratio of private, 
semi-private to public courses, how much business can an independent 
clubmaker expect to see in a given area?




-----Original Message-----
From: Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:32 am
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Club repair, who gets the most?


I agree with a lot of what you say, but the point I'm trying to make is that 
regardless of ability or training, there are a lot of guys out there doing 
reshafts and regrips. That aside, the question isn't about how much work goes 
to "garage" guys. The question was, if you'd care to read my post again, what's 
the ratio of pro-shop to custom shop club repairs? I didn't mention anything 
about home mechanics. 

In point of fact, I'd go so far as to say that a relatively large fraction of 
so-called custom club fitters, whether they be PGA pros or golf store employees 
like Roger Dunn and others, don't have a clue as to how to fit a golfer 
properly. However, not to put too fine a point on it, the question remains, 
what fraction of club repair work goes to the golf shop vs the stand alone 
clubmaker? 

TFlan


Robert Devino wrote: 


Club making in of itself won't bring in a whole lot of business.? It needs to 
be coupled with custom fitting services to be a real business.? Guys doing 
repairs out of thier garages are not doing the golf business and in a lot of 
cases not all, ?the people they service a whole lot of good.? As a Hotstix 
trained club builder and a graduate of Mundus Institute for Golf Course 
Management and Lead Builder for KZG I have to say that most guys I have seen 
building or repairing out thier garage don't have a dedication to perfection. 
They usually follow tipping instructions instead of building to particular 
frequencies or MOI's. To me that's no better than buying a set off the rack and 
expecting them to work for you.? If you ask them to analize a lie angle board 
mark they don't pay any attention to the type of swing that produced it and 
consiquently?don't know how to tell if the mark produced is right for that type 
of swing. so the poor guy the build for ends up with the wrong lie a!
 ngles for thier type of swing and can't figure out why they can't?hit it 
straight.

?

I guess my point is most garage builders not all but most are not qualified?and 
don't have the knowledge to do the job right and end up giving the business a 
bad reputation.


?
Sincerely,
Robert Devino
14252 Delano St.
Van Nuys, Ca. 91401
(818) 770-0475 





----- Original Message ----
From: Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]; spine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:32:14 PM
Subject: ShopTalk: Club repair, who gets the most?

I've been a "muny" guy for a lot of years. I've also been a member of a 
semi-private club. And I was a member of a private club in So Cal for a 
few years, and now I'm a member of a private club, going on 10 years, in 
Central CA. So, I have a pretty good idea as to where broken clubs go 
for repair. The question is, though, what's the ratio of private to 
semi-private to public courses?

I know for a fact that the vast majority of club repair, regrip, 
reshaft, new club sales at private clubs go through the pro shop . . . 
that's a fact. I've seen it. Been there. Saw guys come in to the pro 
with a worn set of grips. Saw the pro charge $7.00 for a regrip with 
Tour Wraps. I've seen DG S300 reshafts sold for $35.00. Plus grip.

Hence the question; how much business is left over after the pro shop is 
done with their sales? If there is say, a 50/50 ratio of private, 
semi-private to public courses, how much business can an independent 
clubmaker expect to see in a given area?

TFlan







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