The mfrs got their act together on spines and frequency consistency because of pressure from somewhere. So it's not a lost cause.
-Don M --- TFLAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well Tim; > > I see that it's pointless to go on with you on this > subject. I asked for more info from mfr's. You said > in > effect ANY freq info would be essentially > meaningless. > I said further, that I would like to see a lot of > info > from the mfr's. Your argument remains the same "It's > worthless". Too bad. This is a question that if > answered by mfrs (info BTW that I've been asking for > since I started in this biz in the mid-60's), if > provided it would make it a lot easier on inventory, > let alone clubmaking. If you don't agree, well, > that's > your opinion. Sorry to learn that about you. > > So good luck in all your future ventures. I'll keep > bitching at mfrs. Maybe some day a mfr will provide > useful information in a way that all of us can > understand and use it. > > TFlan > > --- Tim Hewitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sorry - you proposed the new system and I simply > > asked what value it > > would be. > > > > I have no answers, but I do know that butt > frequency > > alone is of no > > more value than a letter designator. Neither means > > anything useful in > > and of itself. > > > > And in spite of you clearly being a jerk about > this, > > I'm not looking > > for an argument, only asking you what the value of > > the number is. You > > seem to think it adds value - and I'm saying it > > means nothing > > independent of the model of the shaft. > > > > I can give you 10 shafts with exactly the same > > number as butt frequency > > - and they will all play completely different one > to > > another. One will > > be a true A flex, another a true R, another a true > S > > and yet another a > > true X. If you've been following any of the > > discussions on shaft > > profiling over the last 5 years you certainly have > > heard this before. > > > > Clearly your second paragraph notes you don't > > understand what I'm > > saying here. > > > > Fuji does not have one butt frequency that denotes > A > > flex - and neither > > does UST. Both companies will have an A flex shaft > > design that is butt > > soft and tip stiff which will have a lower butt > > frequency than an "A" > > flex shaft design that is butt stiff and tip soft. > > > > The number itself is meaningless without knowing > how > > the shaft profiles. > > > > -t > > > > On Aug 4, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Tom wrote: > > > > > Clearly you're looking for an argument and I > > ain't in the mood to > > > argue. So read my post to Roy, on shoptalk. > > > > > > And play a little closer attention to the > meaning > > of my post. I > > > simply think mfr's could and should provide a > > hell of a lot more > > > information than the alphabet. Fuji's "A" flex > is > > different than say, > > > UST's "A" flex, often by a significant amount of > > freqs. I further > > > expanded upon the original post to a couple guys > > that you might want > > > to take a look at and ponder. > > > >
