I did say it was in simple terms right ?
Sincerely, Robert Devino 14252 Delano St. Van Nuys, Ca. 91401 (818) 908-1691 ________________________________ From: Ed Reeder <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 3:25:41 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: KZG Gemini driver heads Robert, It isn't the difference between a scratch and a 10. There is a much wider variation of strokes, say 15 to 20 strokes difference between golfers . >From the USGA Handicap Manual Section 17 [Section 17 also deals with >strategies on how to allocate the handicap strokes per hole. The strict >numerical method below is just the starting point]: (i) Collect about 200 hole-by-hole scores of a group of players (Group A) with a Course Handicap not exceeding 8 strokes for men and 14 strokes for women. A club having a limited number of low-handicapped players may use 200 scores from 25 percent of its players with the lowest Course Handicap. These scores should not be adjusted by Equitable Stroke Control. (ii) Average the score for each hole for Group A, and average the Course Handicap of the players in Group A. (iii) Collect about 200 hole-by-hole scores of a middle- to high-handicapped group of players (Group B). The average of the Course Handicap of each player in Group B should be 15 to 20 strokes higher than the average for each player in Group A. It is preferable for the Course Handicap of each player in Group B to range from 20 to 28 strokes for men and from 26 to 40 strokes for women. These scores should not be adjusted by Equitable Stroke Control. (iv) Average the score for each hole for Group B and average the Course Handicap of the players in Group B. (v) Determine the difference in the average scores for each group on each hole by subtracting the average score of Group A from the average score of Group B. (vi) List the holes in order from 1 through 18 with corresponding Group A average scores, Group B average scores and average score difference. Rank the holes with the hole having the highest average score difference first, and so on. The hole ranked number 1 is the hole on which the higher-handicapped player most needs a stroke. Continue the rankings through 18. (vii) Modify the rankings of the holes, as based on average-score differences in accordance with Section 17-1b on distribution of strokes, and in accordance with Notes 1 and 2 below. /Ed On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:39 -0700, "Robert Devino" <[email protected]> wrote: I think the easiest way to explain this is a hole rating ranking is determined by the average difference between what a scratch player plays the hole and what a 10 handicap plays it at. That's in real simple terms just to portray the idea of what it really is supposed to be. Tom had the complicated explanation correct! > > >Sincerely, >>Robert Devino >>14252 Delano St. >>Van Nuys, Ca. 91401 >>(818) 908-1691 > > > > > ________________________________ From: Tom Flanagan <[email protected]> >To: shoptalk <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 10:58:55 AM >Subject: RE: ShopTalk: KZG Gemini driver heads > > It has nothing to do with what's "easist or hardest". Individual hole > handicaps are assigned by what's most fair for the guy giving the strokes. > And as a very general rule, low number hole ratings aren't placed on holes 18 > or 1. There are exceptions of course. Say you're a 12 playing a 6. You get 6 > pops. You got a pop on the numbers one through 6 handicap holes. Why? Because > the 6 handicapper is as likely to par the hole as you are to bogey it. > However on holes 7 - 18 either golfer is as likely to par as the other. Now, > consider this. Suppose you get your full complement of strokes. So does the > 6. He and you both stroke on the highest rated handicap holes - you're likely > to lose those holes. You then pop on the next 6 lowest handicap holes. You > have a chance to win those - but only a chance. You may win half of them, or > tie. But the remaining 6 - you play scratch. You lose. > >>When I was "a player", a low single digit handicap, I used to play with a +2, >>a scratch and an 8 handicapper. We played something like "you get 3 pops on >>the front and we adjust on the back". So if I won the front by 3 I played >>scratch on the back. If tied I got 3 on the back. If he won I got more pops >>on the back. We played that way for over 10 years and I'd guess that the >>money broke out about even. > >>Today, our game is everybody swings off the low guy in a nassau. Or if a >>threesome, we play "nines" at full handicap - low score on a hole gets 5 >>points, second gets 3, next gets 1. Ties get 4, 4, 1, or 3,3,3. Whatever adds >>up to nine. Fifty cents a point. Best of all, money stays on the table apres >>golf. > >>So you getting 6 pops and the other guy plays at scratch is the most "fair" >>way to play the game. It isn't the best way but so far nobody's come up with >>a better one. > >>TFlan > >>> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:27:46 -0700 >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >> For the most part I agree with the new ratings, but for some reason the hole >> that everyone thinks is the second hardest on the course is now rated the >> second easiest, and one of the easiest holes on the course is rated as the >> second hardest. Not sure how that determination was made, but it does hose >> up where you get/give strokes for sure. > >>t > > > > >________________________________ >Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try BingT now. >
