George, Yeah C9, I figured that...mine came out the same thing.
And, yes, most women seem to do very well with longer drivers. Ten years ago, I had a 72 year old lady with a beautiful swing, but no wrist release to speak of, hitting the ball 150 yards with a 45” men’s driver. Every ball she hit was a perfect trajectory and had a nice little draw. She tried my 48” BOM on an SKF PE A and with one swing adapted to the length and was hitting the ball 185 yards and just like the others. She went to Florida the next week and won a tournament there. My concern then, with swingweights up around D8, was making it around 18 holes without losing control. But she did OK. Another 60-something 5’ 1” lady was hitting a 48” driver with an original Integra Super 450 and SKF PE A about 225 yards and winning senior long drive events here before she moved back to Iowa. Last summer she came for a visit and wanted a new driver, so I made her a DTG 190 on a UL-45 A. She e-mailed me after she got home and said she was at least 230 yards with it. In my experience over the last 12 years, the senior women pick up at least 10-15 yards for every extra inch they can handle, while most men seem to get 8-10 yards per extra inch...probably because most senior women are somewhat “arm swingers.” And, I think that’s why they can adapt to the longer length easier than senior men, who generally have more wrist release. But, that’s just my observations. Bernie [email protected] From: GEORGE HUSON Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: This is a mystery to me . . . I mistyprd length should be 47.5" = C-9 SW George Huson ByGeorge Custom Clubs --- On Wed, 5/4/11, GEORGE HUSON <[email protected]> wrote: From: GEORGE HUSON <[email protected]> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: This is a mystery to me . . . To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 8:57 AM I am using the Integra 175 with the Integra UL-45 & the Winn ultra lite soft grip. Also at 45.5 SW runs C-9 with a couple of 178's running D-0. I have sold to 6'7" 25 year old & 67 year old 5'4" women. Everybody seems to gain yards, and hit at least as straight as their old driver. The women have gained the most as much as 50 yards for some. (Yes they hit the 47" shaft, even the 5'4") The big thing I find is they can hit the ball as hard on the 18th hole as the 1st hole. They now have same head in red, & white, plus the black, and a white shaft in all the flexes. Just building a red one with white shaft now for a 58 year young lady that plays golf once or twice a month. Gained 40 years with my test ladies with black head, will be great to see if the red is as hot. George Huson ByGeorge Custom Clubs --- On Tue, 5/3/11, Bernie Baymiller <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bernie Baymiller <[email protected]> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: This is a mystery to me . . . To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 9:59 PM George, I heard the UL-45 is the same shaft as the 45s from Integra with a different paint job. Maybe a slight modification with the 175 gram driver head (I have the Integra 175 and used DTG version on a customer’s club.). I like the shafts...they hit the ball very straight, though a bit high for my swing. I’m using a UL-45 R on a 10.5° BOM right now at 47½” club length and getting good results. A DTG 190 9°on an SKF PE A also produced good results with a slightly lower trajectory. I don’t like the 175 gram heads much, though. They don’t have as much “pop” for me as the DTG 190. For me, at a 47½” club length, I still think a 190-195 gram head on a low 50s gram shaft delivers the best distance. My BOM weighs 193 grams. At my age, I can’t seem to generate any more speed with the lighter head...though I haven’t really checked the speed mechanically. I have better feel for the club head position during the swing with slightly more weight (around 290-295 grams) and a slightly higher swingweight (about D5-D8). Bernie [email protected] From: GEORGE HUSON Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: This is a mystery to me . . . Hi Bernie, Have you tried any of the 45 gram shafts from Integra? They are not very expensive & I have had very good luck with them, except 2 out of 4 of their stiffs I get are still a little soft, more high R then S. George Huson ByGeorge Custom Clubs --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Bernie Baymiller <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bernie Baymiller <[email protected]> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: This is a mystery to me . . . To: [email protected] Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 8:08 PM Tom, Hey, I had the same reaction to a couple of SKFiber’s new SuperFly 50-gram shafts. I ordered an R and my NF4 indicated it was right on...or at least in the neighborhood. But when I put it on one of the new 175 gram driver heads, a hit felt way too soft...even with that light a head. The whole shaft vibrated like a snake on impact and distance was terrible. The same flex reading on a DTG UL-45 gives me an almost stiff feeling...the tip just snaps through the ball and shaft is solid as a rock. The only thing different about them is the profile...the SuperFly is a slender kind of “swinger” shaft and the UL-45 is a “fat-body hitter” shaft. Any similarity there? Bernie [email protected] From: Tom Flanagan Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:57 PM To: shoptalk Subject: ShopTalk: This is a mystery to me . . . I built a set of Callaway Diablo uh, clones (?) Thursday. Shafts Aldila Velocitor, 4 - SW. I weight matched the heads 7 grams apart, as I usually do, and freq matched the shafts with heads shimmed on, at 38" 5 iron. I was looking for something like what the guy had, 288 cpm 5 iron. So, I got the shafts matched 4 cpm apart using the 288 cpm 5 I to build from up and down. These are filament would shafts so no real spine. But I placed the logos at 3:00, where the shafts seemed best on the meter. Double checked freqs, weights, lengths, and stuck them together. O'size grips lightened the SW to about C9 +/-I checked the freqs again gripped. 284 for the 5I, and so on. Perfect, another quality build by yours truly except, oops! The customer called me Saturday, mucho pissed off. "I can't hit these Flanster, they're so goddam stiff I can hardly bend them." What the hell? So I took them back today, popped the grips, pulled the shafts and re-checked. Sure enough, freqs were right on. I did the old "tried and true" stiffness test. Put the club - 8 iron cuz I hadn't pulled it apart yet, toe on the ground, push on the butt. The damn shaft hardly budged! I shimmed the 288 cpm 5I together and tried that one - hardly any give at all - at 288 cpm! So, I have a set of PC Xtra Lites. Also filament wound. I installed them at the very same readings on the freq meter - 288 cpm 5I. Did the tried and true "push down test." Ahhh, nice and soft. So, the whole set of PC Xtra Lites freq the same as the Aldilas. In all the years I've been doing this I've never seen this. I can understand a couple cpm's difference, but what amounts to X to soft R with the same freqs, etc. makes no sense to me at all. So. . . . WHY? Befuddled in the Land of Fruits and Nuts. TFlan -------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3596 - Release Date: 04/25/11 02:34:00 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3596 - Release Date: 04/25/11 02:34:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3596 - Release Date: 04/25/11 02:34:00
