Hi,

On Nov 21, 2009, at 1:18 AM, Geoff Huston wrote:
> 
> On 21/11/2009, at 8:51 AM, Stephen Kent wrote:
> 
>> At 11:39 AM +1100 11/18/09, Geoff Huston wrote:
>>> WG co-chair hat OFF
>>> 
>>> This is a posting made in my role as a document co-author, and not as a 
>>> co-chair of the WG
>>> 
>>> In reviewing the manifest document I notice that the document in its 
>>> current version defines a manifest as an RPKI construct. I have two 
>>> questions about  this:
>>> 
>>> 1. Should the manifest document be constrained in this manner as being 
>>> exclusively an RPKI construct, or should the reference to exclusive use by 
>>> the RPKI be removed such that the manifest is defined in a manner that is 
>>> agnostic to the context of the PKI in which the manifest may be used, so 
>>> that any CA may use a manifest?
>>> 
>>> 2. In the context of the RPKI should the manifest document used a SHOULD to 
>>> specify that the resources in the RPKI EE certificate used to validate the 
>>> manifest's signature be specified using the inherit bit setting of the 
>>> RFC3779 extensions?
>>> 
>>> Do any of the document's co-authors, or any WG folk, have an opinion of 
>>> either or both of these questions that they'd like to share?
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> 
>>> Geoff
>>> 
>>> WG co-chair hat OFF
>> 
>> I agree that the manifest structure is more general than the RPKI context.

As one of the developers working on the RPKI solution at RIPE NCC I agree with 
this.


>> 
>> However, if we choose to make the manifest document generic, we probably 
>> need another document that profiles it for the RPKI.
>> 
>> Steve
> 
> WG co-chair hat OFF
> 
> This is a posting made in my role as a document co-author, and not as a 
> co-chair of the WG.
> 
> Thanks for this comment Steve. I am happy to attempt to redraft the manifest 
> as a more generic document that describes a manifest in terms of a list of 
> published products of a CA, with a signature that is verified using an EE 
> certificate that is a subordinate product of that CA.
> 
> At this stage I'm of the view that the only RPKI-specific profile would be to 
> say that the RPKI EE cert SHOULD use the inherit bit in the RFC3779 
> extension, and this seeems such a small profile component that it could fit 
> into the res-cert profile draft in its own section.
> 

I agree. In effect this would allow for a more generic use of the manifests 
without impacting the rpki structure that was envisioned.

As others suggested cooperation with the PKIX wg is probably advised. But since 
I have not (yet) been very actively involved in the IETF WGs and processes I 
will leave this discussion to the more experienced people among us.

Regards,

Tim

> regards,
> 
>   Geoff
> 
> WG co-chair hat OFF
> 
> 
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Tim Bruijnzeels
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