Hi Srinam,

I don't believe that wording is appropriate for an RFC. The wording that is 
consistent with the current BGP spec is actually in the -07 version.

regards,

  Geoff




On 29/10/2010, at 3:34 AM, Sriram, Kotikalapudi wrote:

> Geoff:
> 
> Sorry about the previous email with an incomplete message.
> I hit some key accidentally and off it went :(
> 
> As you know, the following email messages between you, Chris and 
> myself are relevant to your 08-rev as well.
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg02020.html
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg02017.html
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg02015.html
> 
> Consistent with the above messages,
> I would like to suggest removing the algorithmic aspects 
> of how to handle updates with AS_SET.
> Instead wording along the lines (you may fine tune the wording)
> should be included:
> It is recognized that in a very small percentage of updates,
> proxy aggregation with inclusion AS_SET attribute is found.
> There is a proposal under consideration in the IDR WG
> to deprecate AS_SETs. Description of the part of the algorithm
> that deals with origin validation of updates with AS_SET is deferred 
> pending outcome of the IDR WG action on this issue.
> 
> Sriram
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>> Christopher
>> Morrow
>> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 4:58 PM
>> To: Geoff Huston
>> Cc: Sandra Murphy; [email protected] wg
>> Subject: Re: [sidr] WG LC request for draft-ietf-sidr-roa-validation-08.txt
>> 
>> This was sent along (the requested LC message) to the list today...
>> see you in 2 weeks (at decision time)
>> 
>> -chris
>> (wg-co-chair-cycling-shoes == on)
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Geoff Huston <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Let me try that once again!
>>> 
>>> The authors have revised the text relating to the definition of the origin 
>>> AS to be
>> conformant to the current BGP specification, namely that if the AGGREGATOR 
>> path
>> attribute is present it "contains the last AS number that formed the 
>> aggregate route"
>> [RFC4271]. If this path attribute is not present the draft defines the 
>> origin AS as the AS
>> preceding the AS_SET, which is a definition that has been drawn from the 
>> earlier WG mail
>> thread on this topic
>>> 
>>> The intention here is not to impose criteria that differ from RFC4271, and 
>>> define the
>> origin AS in an manner that if an AS undertakes proxy aggregation in 
>> conformance with
>> RFC4271 then this definition of origin AS will correctly identify the 
>> aggregator AS as the
>> origin AS. This is slightly different from the various suggestions seen so 
>> far on the WG
>> mailing list, but it is believed that this refines those suggestions in the 
>> light of a careful
>> reading of the relevant sections of RFC 4271.
>>> 
>>> The authors do not plan any further revisions of this document, and, 
>>> accordingly, would
>> like once more to request a WG Last Call of the -08 rev of the document.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> 
>>>   Geoff

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Geoff Huston
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