Geoff:

The following wording is in both -07 and -08 versions:
"If the final path segment of the AS_PATH is of type 
AS_SET, indicating that the route is an aggregate, 
then the origin AS is taken as the AS component of the 
AGGREGATOR attribute [RFC4271], if present."

In light of all our discussions, why not replace the above wording with:
"If the final path segment of the AS_PATH is of type 
AS_SET, indicating that the route is an aggregate, 
then the route's origin AS cannot be determined."

That would clearly avoid the new attack vector
on normal prefixes that I have explained before.
There is no point in allowing an additional new type of
attack possibility on 300K or more normal prefixes 
(i.e., those originated without AS_SET and proxy aggregation)
in order to somehow cater to miniscule prefix-updates with AS_SET.

Sriram

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Huston [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:52 PM
> To: Sriram, Kotikalapudi
> Cc: Christopher Morrow; Sandra Murphy; [email protected] wg
> Subject: Re: [sidr] WG LC request for draft-ietf-sidr-roa-validation-08.txt
> 
> Hi Srinam,
> 
> I don't believe that wording is appropriate for an RFC. The wording that is 
> consistent with
> the current BGP spec is actually in the -07 version.
> 
> regards,
> 
>   Geoff
>  
> On 29/10/2010, at 3:34 AM, Sriram, Kotikalapudi wrote:
> 
> > Geoff:
> >
> > Sorry about the previous email with an incomplete message.
> > I hit some key accidentally and off it went :(
> >
> > As you know, the following email messages between you, Chris and
> > myself are relevant to your 08-rev as well.
> >
> > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg02020.html
> > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg02017.html
> > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg02015.html
> >
> > Consistent with the above messages,
> > I would like to suggest removing the algorithmic aspects
> > of how to handle updates with AS_SET.
> > Instead wording along the lines (you may fine tune the wording)
> > should be included:
> > It is recognized that in a very small percentage of updates,
> > proxy aggregation with inclusion AS_SET attribute is found.
> > There is a proposal under consideration in the IDR WG
> > to deprecate AS_SETs. Description of the part of the algorithm
> > that deals with origin validation of updates with AS_SET is deferred
> > pending outcome of the IDR WG action on this issue.
> >
> > Sriram
> >
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