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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jakob 
Heitz
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [sidr] BGPSec scaling (was RE: beacons and bgpsec)

So, a question for you Rob. Will your customers pay the premium for BGP 
security?

WEG] This question is a good one, as it makes the difference between a capex 
driver with no projected bottom-line improvement and a potential revenue 
stream. We've seen the "unfunded mandate" movie before. It's one of the reasons 
that IPv6 deployment took so long -
"yeah we have to spend $xxM to upgrade the network and our systems to support 
IPv6."
"Ok, how much extra can we charge for that?"
"Um...yeah, about that... but if we don't have it soon, our customers will 
leave us and we might run out of IP addresses..."
"I haven't had any customers ask me for it...when is soon?"
"Maybe 12-18 months?"
"Ok, let's do it next year then."
(lather, rinse, repeat for several years)

My guess is that the union of who is willing to pay for it and what they're 
willing to pay likely won't cover the SP's costs to implement it. Generally 
security is one of those things that either is critical, cost-no-object or is 
seen as optional if the threat of impact is low enough compared with the cost 
of avoidance/prevention. I think that the threat risk BGPSec is addressing is 
seen as pretty low by the vast majority of small to medium enterprises if 
they've never been hit by it. Heck, we've recently seen some very large 
companies get burned for not having properly invested in security in areas 
where the threat model was a bit more obviously risky (Sony)...
The sales pitch for BGPSec, especially in an incremental deployment model will 
have a lot of bearing on that perceived level of risk and our collective 
ability to mitigate it. If we're successful, maybe it becomes a sustainable 
investment. However, it's risky to assume that this will cover the added cost 
burden completely.

Wes George


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