Lu, as I stated elsewhere, I did read your post, but I do not trust you.

Owen

> On Dec 6, 2015, at 01:13 , h...@anytimechinese.com wrote:
> 
> I have explained the reasoning of asking it fairly well in one of the list 
> and Owen just didn't read it and speculate my action, fair warning, read to 
> Owen, do not speculate people's action on public space without ground.l, 
> especially such action was already explained publicly. 
> 
> On 6 Dec 2015, at 5:06 AM, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com 
> <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Fair warning, Lu asked the identical question on the ARIN list and (I 
>> presume the RIPE list since he left RIPE in all
>> the key places in the one he posted to ARIN).
>> 
>> It seems to me that he may be doing some form of registry policy shopping.
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 06:07 , Skeeve Stevens <ske...@v4now.com 
>>> <mailto:ske...@v4now.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Lu,
>>> 
>>> 1st: I would say no.  There are no followups after allocation and there 
>>> should not be due to the many complication issues that can happen.
>>> 
>>> 2nd: I would say no.  The changing of network infrastructure should NOT 
>>> invalidate the original request which is approved. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ...Skeeve
>>> 
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>>> <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve>
>>> twitter.com/theispguy <http://twitter.com/theispguy> ; blog: 
>>> www.theispguy.com <http://www.theispguy.com/> ; Keybase: 
>>> https://keybase.io/skeeve <https://keybase.io/skeeve>
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Lu Heng <h...@anytimechinese.com 
>>> <mailto:h...@anytimechinese.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I have an policy question regarding the "need".
>>> 
>>> We all know when RIR makes approves assignment LIR made if it is beyond 
>>> LIR's assignment window, while the "need" has changed, the assignment 
>>> become invalid.
>>> 
>>> The question come to what the definition of need, as a young people here, I 
>>> am a bit confused, Below I have few examples, please enlighten me if anyone 
>>> has an thought about it.
>>> 
>>> First one:
>>> 
>>> Company A provides 100 customer dedicated server service at location A, RIR 
>>> makes an assignment for 100 IP for his infrastructure, if, under condition 
>>> that no other factor was changed, Company A moved his infrastructure to 
>>> location B, but still providing same service to same customer, does the 
>>> company's action need to be notified  to RIR? And does this action 
>>> considered invalid the original assignment?
>>> 
>>> Second one:
>>> 
>>> Company A provides web hosting service, but any casted in 3 location, and 
>>> has provided the evidence of 3 location to the RIR during the time the 
>>> company getting valid assignment, then A decided to cut 3 location to 2 
>>> location, does this invalid original assignment and need to be notified to 
>>> RIR?
>>> 
>>> So the bottom line is, what is the definition of need, is it defined as the 
>>> service you are providing or defined as whole package of any of original 
>>> justification material was provided, if was the later, then does it imply 
>>> that anything, including location of the infrastructure, upstream providers 
>>> etc has changed due to operational need, it will be considered as change of 
>>> purpose of use and need to be notified to RIR?
>>> 
>>> What should be the right interpretation of the policy by then?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> --
>>> Kind regards.
>>> Lu
>>> 
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