Dear Tomohiro, The APNIC Secretariat is reviewing the policy proposals under discussion and seeks clarification to better understand the intention of prop-116-v004: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in the final /8 block.
APNIC remains neutral and objective about the outcome of this discussion and only requires clarification to ensure correct implementation, should the proposal reach consensus. - Would the prohibition apply to resources that are received as the result of a transfer? Or does this proposal only apply to delegations directly from the free pool? We appreciate your feedback. Regards, Adam _______________________________________________________ Adam Gosling Senior Internet Policy Analyst, APNIC e: [email protected] p: +61 7 3858 3142 m: +61 421 456 243 www.apnic.net _______________________________________________________ Join the conversation: https://blog.apnic.net/ _______________________________________________________ On 24/8/17, 07:26, "[email protected] on behalf of Stephane MATEO" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: Hi all, - Do you support or oppose the proposal? I support this proposal. - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal? No, personally I do not need another address range but it is at least protecting the last block for those who need some and not for the transfer market. Moreover, if you don't need your IPv4 ranges anymore, give it back to your RIR. - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? Fine by me Regards, Stephane MATEO Offratel Lagoon CTO Tel : +687 29.68.41 | www.lagoon.nc | -----Message d'origine----- De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de chku Envoyé : mercredi 9 août 2017 17:12 À : sig-policy <[email protected]> Objet : [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] New version of prop-116: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in the final /8 block Dear SIG members A new version of the proposal "prop-116: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in the final /8 block" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review. It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 44 which will be held in Taichung, Taiwan on Wednesday and Thursday, 14 & 15 September 2017. Information about earlier versions is available from: http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-116 You are encouraged to express your views on the proposal: - Do you support or oppose the proposal? - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal? - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective? Please find the text of the proposal below. Kind Regards, Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng APNIC Policy SIG Chairs ------------------------------------------------------- prop-116-v004: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in the final /8 block ------------------------------------------------------- Proposer: Tomohiro Fujisaki [email protected] 1. Problem statement -------------------- There are a lot of transfers of IPv4 address blocks from 103/8 happening, both within the APNIC region and among RIRs. Then number of transfer from 103/8 block are about 200, which is about 12% of the total number of transfers. This looks so high since APNIC manages about 40/8. And based on the information provided by APNIC Secretariat, number of transfers from the 103/8 block are increasing year by year. Updated by APNIC Secretariat on 27 January 2017: 1) M&A transfers containing 103/8 space +------+-----------+-----------+- | | Total | Number of | | Year | Transfers | /24s | +------+-----------+-----------+- | 2011 | 3 | 12 | | 2012 | 10 | 46 | | 2013 | 18 | 66 | | 2014 | 126 | 498 | | 2015 | 147 | 573 | | 2016 | 63 | 239 | | 2017 | 45 | 178 | +------+-----------+------------+- 2) Market transfers containing 103/8 space +------+-----------+-----------+ | | Total | Number of | | Year | Transfers | /24s | +------+-----------+-----------+ | 2011 | 2 | 2 | | 2012 | 21 | 68 | | 2013 | 16 | 61 | | 2014 | 25 | 95 | | 2015 | 67 | 266 | | 2016 | 103 | 394 | | 2017 | 70 | 288 | +------+-----------+-----------+ And also, transfers from the 103/8 block include: - Take place within 1 year of distribution, or - Multiple blocks to a single organization in case of beyond 1 year. Further, there is a case where a single organization have received 12 blocks transfers from 103 range. see: https://www.apnic.net/transfer-resources/transfer-logs From these figures, it is quite likely that substantial number of 103/8 blocks are being used for transfer purpose. This conflicts with the concept of distribution of 103/8 block (prop-062), which is intended to accommodate minimum IPv4 address blocks for new comers. prop-062: Use of final /8 https://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-062 2. Objective of policy change ----------------------------- When stated problem is solved, distribution from 103/8 block will be consistent with its original purpose, for distribution for new entrants to the industry. Without the policy change, substantial portion of 103/8 blocks will be consumed for transfer purpose. 3. Situation in other regions ----------------------------- None. 4. Proposed policy solution --------------------------- Prohibit transfer IPv4 addresses under /8 address block (103/8) which have not passed two years after its allocation/assignment. If the address block allocated to a LIR in two years is not needed any more, it must return to APNIC to allocate to another organization using final /8 policy. This two years requirement will apply both market and M&A transfers. 5. Advantages / Disadvantages ----------------------------- Advantages: - It makes 103/8 blocks available according to the original purpose, as distribution for new entrants (rather than being consumed for transfer purpose) - IPv4 addresses under final /8 are not transferred to outside APNIC. - By prohibiting transfer, them, it is possible to keep one /22 for each LIRs state, which is fair for all LIRs. Disadvantages: None. 6. Impact on resource holders ------------------------------ - LIRs cannot transfer address blocks under 103/8. No big impact while they use it. - Organizations which needs to receive transferred IPv4 can continue to do so, outside 103/8 blocks (which should be made available for new entrants) 7. References ------------- _______________________________________________ Sig-policy-chair mailing list [email protected] https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy-chair * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * _______________________________________________ sig-policy mailing list [email protected] https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * _______________________________________________ sig-policy mailing list [email protected] https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy
