Dear Team, As statistics suggest, M&A cases are hardly 2 to 3% of the total delegations. M&A are the routine business activities, and no one can predict when will it happen . I support the policy.
Rajesh Panwala For Smartlink solutions Pvt. Ltd. +91-9227886001 On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 3:38 PM, andrew khoo <[email protected]> wrote: > we will vote to support this policy. > > as a practical example, the organisation i work for will be affected by > this policy. > > the organisation (a mobile MVNO) acquired a business in 2016 with a /22 > from the 103/8 range with the intention of offering fixed line services. > > we are seeking to merge the purchased entity's /22 into our APNIC account. > > if we do not do this, the details in APNIC whois for the purchased entity > will soon be no longer valid. > > > > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Guangliang Pan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Aftab, >> >> >> >> The number of M&A transfers involved 103/8 address block from 15 April >> 2011 to 14 Sep 2017 is 257. >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Guangliang >> >> ========== >> >> >> >> *From:* Aftab Siddiqui [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Monday, 29 January 2018 8:49 PM >> *To:* Guangliang Pan <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* Sanjeev Gupta <[email protected]>; mailman_SIG-policy < >> [email protected]> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer >> policy [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED] >> >> >> >> Hi Guangliang, >> >> How many M&A were processed for 103/8 address block from 15 April 2011 to >> 14 Sep 2017. >> >> >> >> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 at 06:43 Guangliang Pan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Sanjeev, >> >> >> >> The number of delegations from 103/8 pool since 29 Jan 2013 (Five years >> count back from today) to 14 Sep 2017 is 10868. These are the delegations >> are not allowed to transfer as of today according to prop-116-v006. >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Guangliang >> >> ========= >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:sig-policy-bounces@lis >> ts.apnic.net] *On Behalf Of *Sanjeev Gupta >> *Sent:* Monday, 29 January 2018 3:34 PM >> *To:* Henderson Mike, Mr <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* mailman_SIG-policy <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer >> policy [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED] >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I see this as more of a "do not make policy retroactively". People who >> "bought" an "asset" in good faith should not be told it is worth different >> now. >> >> >> >> I am amenable to changing the cut-off date in Prop-123 to the date it was >> sent to the Policy SIG, as that might have given warning to people the >> rules were changing. >> >> >> >> APNIC Secretariat, how many transfers will be affected by Prop-123? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sanjeev Gupta >> +65 98551208 <+65%209855%201208> http://sg.linkedin.com/in/ghane >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 4:16 AM, Henderson Mike, Mr < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Not supported >> >> >> >> The proposal should in my opinion be amended to read: >> >> ___________________________ >> >> Disadvantages: >> >> >> >> None Completely negates the purpose of prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer >> IPv4 addresses in >> >> the final /8 block. >> >> ___________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> >> >> *Mike* >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:sig-policy-bounces@lis >> ts.apnic.net] *On Behalf Of *Bertrand Cherrier >> *Sent:* Friday, 26 January 2018 4:28 p.m. >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy >> >> >> >> Dear SIG members, >> >> The proposal "prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy" has >> been sent to the Policy SIG for review. >> >> It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 45 in >> Kathmandu, Nepal on Tuesday, 27 February 2018. >> >> We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list >> before the meeting. >> >> The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an >> important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to >> express your views on the proposal: >> >> - Do you support or oppose this proposal? >> - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, >> tell the community about your situation. >> - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal? >> - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? >> - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more >> effective? >> >> Information about this proposal is available at: >> >> http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-123 >> >> Regards >> >> Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng >> APNIC Policy SIG Chairs >> >> https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/prop-123-v001.txt >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Proposer: Alex Yang >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. Problem statement >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Policy Proposal prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in >> >> the final /8 block reached consensus at the APNIC 44 AMM on 14 Sep >> >> 2017. Since that APNIC has stopped all the IPv4 transfers from 103/8 >> >> block if the delegation date is less than 5 years. >> >> >> >> However, some of the 103/8 ranges were delegated before 14 Sep 2017. >> >> Those resources should not be subjected to 5 years restriction. The >> >> community was not aware of the restriction when they received those >> >> resources, some of the resources have been transferred or planning to >> >> transfer. If APNIC is not allow those transfers to be registered, >> >> there will be underground transfers. This will cause incorrect APNIC >> >> Whois data. >> >> >> >> >> >> 2. Objective of policy change >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> To keep the APNIC Whois data correct. >> >> >> >> >> >> 3. Situation in other regions >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No such situation in other regions. >> >> >> >> >> >> 4. Proposed policy solution >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> “Prohibit transfer IPv4 addresses under final /8 address block (103/8) >> >> which have not passed five years after its allocation/assignment” >> >> should only apply to those ranges were delegated from APNIC since 14 >> >> Sep 2017. >> >> >> >> >> >> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Advantages: >> >> >> >> - Allow APNIC to register those 103/8 transfers to keep the APNIC >> >> Whois data correct. >> >> >> >> >> >> Disadvantages: >> >> >> >> None. >> >> >> >> >> >> 6. Impact on resource holders >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Resource holders are allowed to transfer 103/8 ranges if the resources >> >> were delegated before 14 Sep 2017. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 7. References >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for >> the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not >> necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence >> Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, >> copy or >> distribute this message or the information in it. 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