Hi Hiroki, all, Thanks for your inputs, allow me to clarify below, in-line.
El 6/9/19 16:25, "Hiroki Kawabata" <sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net en nombre de kawab...@nic.ad.jp> escribió: Hi all, About the part of IPv6, we oppose this. other parts are neutral. We have to make efforts to aggrigate IPv6 routes and to maintain sparse allocation mechanism. Since each registry has enough IPv6 prefix, it is better to receive a new prefix from the registry, especially partial M&A case. If I recall correctly, when I talked about this with the staff, they confirmed that already accept partial M&A cases. My text only clarifies it. We know perfectly that even if we don't like disaggregation (and I encourage to avoid it), LIRs will do it anyway. Existing policy doesn't forbid it. Is only recommended. So not having this text, doesn't disallow it. The other point that you raise, this is not changing sparse allocation. The prefixes we are discussion about, are already allocated or assigned to LIRs/end-users, so the APNIC internal sparse allocation doesn't change. Last, but not least. When a company acquires another, they have the rights to acquire all their assets, and legally, you can't avoid that. Even if policies say "not", legally they have acquired all or part of the assets (including the right to use the addressing space). Having a policy that doesn't allow it will not change a legal right. About inter-RIR, there are not consensus about (M&A and/or market)transfer IPv6 address between RIRs. First of all, we think we need to discuss about it. This has been accepted already in RIPE (long time ago). LACNIC staff confirmed, in the impact analysis of an equivalent policy proposal, that when a company is involved in an M&A, they merge "all the resources, not just IPv4". Do you really think, you can forbid a company, never mind is from one region or another, to "not transfer" the resources that are part of the legal agreement that they have acquired (when they buy a company which is APNIC member, they "buy" all the contracts)? We like it or not, this is a lost battle in my opinion. You can't say, transfer IPv4, renumber your ASN and IPv6! Regards, Hiroki --- Hiroki Kawabata Japan Network Information Center(JPNIC) Subject: [sig-policy] Policy Proposal: prop-130-v001: Modification of transfer policies Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:59:19 +0600 From: Sumon Ahmed Sabir <sasa...@gmail.com> > Dear SIG members, > > The proposal "prop-130-v001: Modification of transfer policies" > has been sent to the Policy SIG for review. > > It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 48 in > Chiang Mai, Thailand on Thursday, 12 September 2019. > > We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list > before the meeting. > > The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an > important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to > express your views on the proposal: > > - Do you support or oppose this proposal? > - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, > tell the community about your situation. > - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal? > - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? > - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more > effective? > > Information about this proposal is available at: > > http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-130 > > Regards > > Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng > APNIC Policy SIG Chairs > > > * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * > _______________________________________________ > sig-policy mailing list > email@example.com > https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy > * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * _______________________________________________ sig-policy mailing list firstname.lastname@example.org https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it. * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * _______________________________________________ sig-policy mailing list email@example.com https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy